Lemon Law: H3 is the most unreliable car I've ever owned!

[Hmmm2]

Skinner, what part of California are you in?

[Hummer23]

The H3 is the best truck I have ever had. I love driving it. I think the original poster is the extreme exception to have eng trouble. My truck has performed flawlessly. It is a joy to drive. Actually I was concerned about the power before I bought, but I have found it to be fine. It is not a dragster, but i really dont see a huge difference between the H3 and my wifes 2004 explorer. And besides my last fill up was 20.3 gallons and I got 384 miles, yea 19mpg.

[Huck BB62]

I flog the krap out of it. I have to, we live in the mountains and I pass people every day, they won't pull over. I mean I REALLY flog it. I drive 45 miles each way and going home is all uphill. I'm used to a lot of power on the other vehicles we have so I don't like taking an extra ten minutes to get home. It's constantly in third gear way up in the RPMs. The only problem we've had is a code flashing Serv 4WD. It's the wiring for the rear locker and our Hummer dealer is fantastic. Hell, anytime you get a Cadillac STS for a loaner, it's a pretty cool deal (great car by the way but it's still a CAR)

My way of thinking is that the engine's a pretty good one. I've never whooped up on an engine so hard. I feed it synthetic oil to keep it happy, everything else considered I'd expect that if anyone here's engine would fail on them, it'd be ours.

Yeah, there's a few things I'd change on the Hummer but calling it a POS is not what I've found to be true.

About getting an XTerra, go side hill it for us all, take lots of pictures of the roll over.

[NEOCON1]

x2 i romp on mine pretty hard too , and would not call it the biggest POS either mine has been a good lil truck and have over 16k now

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by skinner

If GM really does "FIX" the problem....and I mean a real fix, as in never happening again, then we will keep the H3. But so far it has been "fixed" 3 times! I just want something reliable...thats all.

Dude, GM has fixed the issue back in March. That is why for a while heads were hard to find.
If all three of your engine rebuilds were due to the intake valves then the dealer kept installing pre-revised cylinder heads. If the second and third problems were due to other issues, then it was the dealer who screwed up during the rebuild.
There was another person on here that complained the same. First problem was GM's issue with the intake valve guides. The next problems such as the camshaft sprocket falling off, were the fault of the dealer.
GM did fix the issue with the cylinder heads, and the new heads will last hundreds of thousands of miles; if intalled correctly.
So, stop with the BS of GM can't fix the problem. If you have so much trouble with the "vehicle," sell it.
I would be curious as to how many miles between cylinder head problems, because the wear issue with the intake valve guides takes a few K to start, if they are going to start wearing that is.
But in my opinion, coming on here and blasting GM when you weren't here before makes me see a "troll." I may be wrong, but your first post is pure of BS in regard GM not repairing the problem.
Oh, and should I say, the warranty numbers are not that high, I'm from MI, currently in Moab, and so far, with 11K, no cylinder head problems. (And yes, a very small number of Colorado/Canyons are feeling the same pain, but naturally, with much smaller numbers.)
I have to head back to the red rocks and sand.

[BABHUMV]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

I have to head back to the red rocks and sand.

I'm jealous.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

How could you be out 10K???

Why would you have to pay for anything???

Well, if you have any legal fees, and for the depreciation aspect. I don't think Lemon Law claims go as smooth as it seems. But I don't know. It can't be free.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

OMG!!! isn't this your 2nd time in here? First you came in as connorgleason and started off by posting the H2 tierod video and talking sh*t. What did you expect?

[lotus4s]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

OMG!!! isn't this your 2nd time in here? First you came in as connorgleason and started off by posting the H2 tierod video and talking sh*t. What did you expect?

Things a little slow tonight DRTY?

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.

Weird. You've got a different story on this other site:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/...ead.php?t=2145

A buddy of mine just installed an MP3 stereo system from a company called Audio Retro. This thing is pretty cool...it allows you to play over 200 digital songs and you can keep your AM radio. You can even take your music with you when you leave your car and use it as a portable device.

Anyway, I'm a broke college student so I was absolutely thrilled when I saw that they were offering FREE items just for submitting a photo. The only thing is that they require a minimum of 50 entries before they give out their 3 prizes

So...I would appreciate it if you guys could spread the word

www.audioretro.com

[DRTYFN]

Looks like you're quite the little flooder over there. Try it here an your info gets posted. Amazing what can be found.
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/...searchid=91253

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by skinner

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

[Brian H]

And at 3 head jobs totaling $10,000, dude, you need to find a different street corner.

[H3.007]

Underpowered? As compared to what? I had an 95 Explorer Sport with a 4.0 V6 that I traded for the H3. The Explorer might have been a bit quicker on the highway, but only a bit. Honestly, I really doubt I could tell the difference if I could drive the two back to back now. I know some doubt the benefits of the K&N aircharger but I do feel it helps the engine breath, assisting in countering any highway speed issues. It also seems to be assisted by lower viscosity synthetics that are designed to reduce friction and heat . In fact, when the H3 engine kicks in at high RPMs, I make sure I am hanging on because it "goes".

This whole horespower issue also is discredited by comparing the HP numbers of the Explorer vs. H3. And there is so much more torq...

Albeit one example of qualitative results as compared to quantitatie, dyno-type results, I have to say that this H3 set up is probably the most optimal. But again, that is my humble opinion.

It isn't a Mustang or for fair comparison's sake, a GM Cyclone, but it is a very, very good all around vehicle. For me, if I want wicked speed, I'll go home and pull the Probe GT out of the garage.

And I can agree with the statement on side-hilling the Xterra or even the Explorers (latter from experience) - keep in mind the horsepower issues
when you are barrel-rolling down those inclines

Oh yeah - and good luck with the Lemon Law - from experience, it is a joke.

[jp's-h3]

NISSAN MORE RELIABLE!
THAT'S A CROCK OF SH** !
JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE FEW THAT BOUGHT A LEMON DOES NOT HOLD SH** AGAINST THE H3'S RELIABILITY!
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NISSAN'S THAT HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS. SO HOW RELIABLE ARE THEY?

[fourfourto]

Originally Posted by jp's-h3

NISSAN MORE RELIABLE!
THAT'S A CROCK OF SH** !
JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE FEW THAT BOUGHT A LEMON DOES NOT HOLD SH** AGAINST THE H3'S RELIABILITY!
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NISSAN'S THAT HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS. SO HOW RELIABLE ARE THEY?

I had a 2004 murano for 2 years 20,000 miles.
The sunroof leaked and was replaced,the alternator was replaced, then the battery.Also had a problem with the headlights not sure how the fixed it.
It did have plenty of power on the road though.
On the beach when it dough in (by the way the H3 has never came close to diging in)the variable speed trans made a burning smell and felt like it lost all power(slipped),that happened a few times.I dont beleve the trans was going to last that long I got rid of it before the warranty expired.

[NM H3]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

Figures, New Mexico -- What a bunch of idiots!

[usetosellhummer]

go wash your puss, I had the colarado before the H3, lots of luck with that xterra

[Hummer3]

quote "Anyway, I'm a broke college student "



This quy is broke because he's been in college for 9 years and still a freshman.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

BOY U dickheads are rough on the guy. Where U read an AH, I see a guy with a legit complaint. Hes maybe not the best with composition of sentences about his complaint but hes nowhere near being a plant or setup.

I own 2 H-3's and yes there are compaints

AND

we all push the limit sometimes with OUR bantering and BS'ing

BUT

WE, ALL of us have to STOP beating up on people who disagree with us.

NOW,

As I read it he is taking the right action for his state

AND

I believe his dealers have aggrevated the situation..

Now thats my thoughts

RYD