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10-11-2006, 02:08 PM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
The DEI System from Circuit City is excellent. I had one in the Explorer I traded for my H3 and it ALWAYS worked. The bypass is all that is needed to work around the factory electronics issues of the system. I haven't had one put in the H3 yet, but I will before winter this year (soon).
I read some reviews on Circuit City's web site that some people needed to get a new key (unknown vehicle type). I am assuming this will not be the case with the H3 due to the use of the bypass module?
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10-11-2006, 04:57 PM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
DEI makes Viper, Sidewinder, and a whole bunch more, and I have the 791XV installed and I did not require a new key in the H3. In addition, the stock passkey system still operates right along with the Viper system.
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10-11-2006, 05:18 PM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
No, the h3 doesn't need an extra key to bypass passlock, just resistors. Vehicles that require keys with the chips on them, is when you need an extra key to bypass.
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10-11-2006, 06:07 PM
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Ahhhh - very good news. Thanks. Less $$$ to spend 
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10-11-2006, 07:09 PM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
do the functions that come with the factory alarm still work with the viper system?:
>>such as locking the doors when shifting out of park and then unlocking only the drivers door when in park (or how ever you set the doors to lock/unlock), or will that have to be setup separately with the new system.
>>also the feature where it doesnt let you lock the drivers door if you have the key in the ignition.
What im trying to ask actually is if i would still be able to change these features by myself through the process in the H3 owners manual or would they have to be setup and changed if needed through the new alarm (most likely an installer will have to do).
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10-11-2006, 07:32 PM
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Yes, factory features will be retained. Most of those features don't have anything to do with the factory alarm anyways. Changing settings on aftermarket alarms such as Viper are simple, it's just a combination of opening/closing doors, cycling through menus using the valet button and pressing a button on the remote.
Example to make the parking lights constant instead of flashing when remote starting... open door, turn key to on then back off, press and hold the valet button until the led flashes three times, then press the valet button 4 times, then once more and hold it, press lock on the transmitter, let go of valet button...close the door. done.
As for the new alarm question you had, I've never used it, but heard about it. Sounds great though, and just as good as the other responder ones. I might have to upgrade and get it myself!
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10-11-2006, 07:42 PM
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I think I'm going to go check out the Clifford Matrix Responder SST tomorrow.
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10-12-2006, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dеiтайожни
Yes, factory features will be retained. Most of those features don't have anything to do with the factory alarm anyways. Changing settings on aftermarket alarms such as Viper are simple, it's just a combination of opening/closing doors, cycling through menus using the valet button and pressing a button on the remote.
Example to make the parking lights constant instead of flashing when remote starting... open door, turn key to on then back off, press and hold the valet button until the led flashes three times, then press the valet button 4 times, then once more and hold it, press lock on the transmitter, let go of valet button...close the door. done.
As for the new alarm question you had, I've never used it, but heard about it. Sounds great though, and just as good as the other responder ones. I might have to upgrade and get it myself!
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True, but one added "feature," is the doors automatically lock after the vehicle is started now with the Viper installed; at least on mine. If you stop and put in park, the doors unlock and will lock automatically when shifted back into gear. It's like the Viper added a lock function 3 seconds after starting the vehicle.
DEI, what other functions can be changed? They didn't give me a list of what could be changed on how to reprogram the unit.
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10-14-2006, 11:55 PM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
hey i got a couple of questions for you guys with viper or clifford alarms. The viper SST i got doest dissable engine start up. My dads viper almost same model( its just not an sst) disables his starter.
With this new alarm i got, when its armed, and i put the key in the ignition, the alarm starts sounding, but the engine starts fine. Isnt it supposed to be dissbaled?
also, the factory alarm is basically still active and i can use it instead of the viper. I tried the same thing on it and the car started. Doesnt the factory alarm dissable the starter or fuel pump or something?
Is something extra needed to disable the starter or whatever is dissabled, or did the installer not do it? I tried calling when i found out, so i can ask him, but they closed for the weekend couple of hours ago.
oh and also with this viper sst, is it supposed to turn the interior lights on and off with arming and disarming just like the factory setup, or do these clifford/viper not do this?
Thanks!!
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10-15-2006, 12:21 AM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
I don't have an aftermarket alarm on my HUMMER. The following is, however, my experience with my Ford Explorer and its 10 year old Viper:
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With this new alarm i got, when its armed, and i put the key in the ignition, the alarm starts sounding, but the engine starts fine. Isnt it supposed to be dissbaled?
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With my Viper armed and alarm sounding, I can place the key in the ignition and start it. I use this way to quickly get the alarm to stop.
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Originally Posted by marin8703
Also, the factory alarm is basically still active and i can use it instead of the viper. I tried the same thing on it and the car started. Doesnt the factory alarm dissable the starter or fuel pump or something?
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My factory system is still there and alive. I have once locked/armed the vehicle--accidently--one night with the factory fob. The next day unlocked with the Viper fob. When I got in the (factory) alarm went into action. In this case the key would not stop the maddnes.
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10-15-2006, 01:02 AM
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Re: Wireless Start-Up?
thanks for the reply, but when the alarm is sounding and i put the key in the ignition and start it, it starts and it doesnt turn off the alarm. I dont get that, either it should stop sounding and start, or keep sounding and not stop, rite?
On my mothers ford escape, the keys have a little transducer or watever it called, so when the alarm is sounding if you put the key in, the sound stops and the car starts, if the key is demagnatized (it happened to me once) the alarm will sound and the vehicle will not start. I know the h3 doest use that transducer key, i think someone said it uses passkey or something like that.
The viper sst i got does say it has failsafe starter kill. So why doesnt this expensive as hell doorstop kill the deam starter  . Could the reason be that the installer might not have used a bypass module or something else that may be needed, cauze on the invoice, he charged me only for the alarm, a sensor, lights, and instrall. Doesnt say anything else.
Does anyone have any idea why this is, what i described in my previuos post.
Thanks for replies!
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