Amstar Products Available (finally)

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hal

Sour grapes! c'mon you were drooling over this stuff 7 months ago, plus we've had all this time to save up the cash. Overpriced, yes but I think the quality will be there, we are talking AM General - H1 quality, which should be better quality than most of the GM parts that the H3 is built with.

Yes, alot us were interested in these products when they first came out. Of course, no prices were listed then.

No one else is making this stuff! if they were there would be no discussion about fabricating parts. Show me who else is making real usefull non-chrome off road H3 equipment like AMstar?

So because Amstar is the only one making this stuff we should be paying 2-3 times what the stuff is worth. That's just stupid.

The problem is there just isn't enough of a perceived market for this stuff so most shops aren't going to put there own money into developing the products. And GM isn't going to help them out. So it's up to us owners to approach them and let them use our trucks to build this stuff.

I'll continue to wait for whatever company or who ever makes the best mods for off roading my H3. If I wanted anything less I would have never bought a Hummer in the first place.

You could be waiting awhile. Amstar's stuff is not the best and it will be the most expensive.

[Hal]

Originally Posted by Sewie

You could be waiting awhile. Amstar's stuff is not the best and it will be the most expensive.

That's why we are having a discussion here, to see where we can find and critique the best off road equipment. I'm not worried about price so much, I just want the best built stuff for when I get way off road back in the boonies. So show me the best. I'm open to all. But I don't live anywhere near fabricators of custom stuff like DOI in Indiana. So I'm still waiting. Hell they got more off road crap out for the FJ already, that pisses me off, but then I wouldn't trade my Hummer for five FJ's.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hal

That's why we are having a discussion here, to see where we can find and critique the best off road equipment. I'm not worried about price so much, I just want the best built stuff for when I get way off road back in the boonies. So show me the best. I'm open to all.

My point is, don't just run out and buy the Amstar stuff just because its the only thing out there. Unless you want to pay a premium. BTW, a lot of their products are just reconfigured OEM parts.

Originally Posted by Hal

But I don't live anywhere near fabricators of custom stuff like DOI in Indiana. So I'm still waiting. Hell they got more off road crap out for the FJ already, that pisses me off, but then I wouldn't trade my Hummer for five FJ's.

You just reinforced my point. It's gonna take owners going out and finding their own fabricators and coming up with their own ideas before companies like ARB and Warn realize there is a market there. I'm sure there are fabricators in your area. If you have an idea and the money, go find them.

[Hal]

Originally Posted by Sewie

You just reinforced my point. It's gonna take owners going out and finding their own fabricators and coming up with their own ideas before companies like ARB and Warn realize there is a market there. I'm sure there are fabricators in your area. If you have an idea and the money, go find them.

I agree with that. I would love to bolt an ARB winch bumper to my H3, it would probably look better than Amstar's. I just wonder how long those companies will wait? Warn and ARB already have an FJ winch bumper. FJ came out after H3, there's more H3's around than FJ's, and I don't think the FJ weenies had to fabricate innovative off road equipment before lift kits and winch bumpers became available. I geuss Toyota is just more global than Hummer.

There is something wierd going on, you have to admit. Maybe (or for sure) GM is in with the Mafia and they're not letting other companies move in so they can secure high price, high end accessory profits?

[Hal]

Originally Posted by Sewie

The problem is there just isn't enough of a perceived market for this stuff so most shops aren't going to put there own money into developing the products. And GM isn't going to help them out. So it's up to us owners to approach them and let them use our trucks to build this stuff.

here's what AMgeneral has to say:

One other comment I might make regarding your e-mail and comments from
your dealer's parts manager. If Proctor's or any other HUMMER Dealer is hesitant about buying or
doing business with us, who do they think designed and built and still builds
the "Best Off Road Vehicle" in the world? Who stands behind their products as
good as GM and better than most other manufacturers? Many of our owner's say
that they have never been treated as fairly with any other product. Why do you
suppose that GM paid us Millions of Dollars for the Name, Marketing Rights and
Distribution rights of the civilian product? Lets just hope the product
offerings keep coming. As you can tell I'm very passionate about AMG/HUMMER/H1
and any other offerings with the HUMMER brand name.
AM General, AMSTAR included, we are "Off Road". Other companies are "Wanna
Be's" in Off Roading. We will always stand behind and support our products.
Your welcome to pass this information on to your H3 discussion group. Our delay
on some items is unfortunate but we will not offer the product unless it is
right and does the job better than or equal to the OEM.
Please keep in touch.

Alec Cumming, Manager
H1 National Operations
AM General, LLC

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hal

here's what AMgeneral has to say:

One other comment I might make regarding your e-mail and comments from
your dealer's parts manager. If Proctor's or any other HUMMER Dealer is hesitant about buying or
doing business with us, who do they think designed and built and still builds
the "Best Off Road Vehicle" in the world? Who stands behind their products as
good as GM and better than most other manufacturers? Many of our owner's say
that they have never been treated as fairly with any other product. Why do you
suppose that GM paid us Millions of Dollars for the Name, Marketing Rights and
Distribution rights of the civilian product? Lets just hope the product
offerings keep coming. As you can tell I'm very passionate about AMG/HUMMER/H1
and any other offerings with the HUMMER brand name.
AM General, AMSTAR included, we are "Off Road". Other companies are "Wanna
Be's" in Off Roading. We will always stand behind and support our products.
Your welcome to pass this information on to your H3 discussion group. Our delay
on some items is unfortunate but we will not offer the product unless it is
right and does the job better than or equal to the OEM.
Please keep in touch.

Alec Cumming, Manager
H1 National Operations
AM General, LLC

Sounds like a sales pitch. What else are they gonna say?

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Someone else will produce this and prices will fall...