Wireless Start-Up?

[marin8703]

hey i got a couple of questions for you guys with viper or clifford alarms. The viper SST i got doest dissable engine start up. My dads viper almost same model( its just not an sst) disables his starter.

With this new alarm i got, when its armed, and i put the key in the ignition, the alarm starts sounding, but the engine starts fine. Isnt it supposed to be dissbaled?

also, the factory alarm is basically still active and i can use it instead of the viper. I tried the same thing on it and the car started. Doesnt the factory alarm dissable the starter or fuel pump or something?

Is something extra needed to disable the starter or whatever is dissabled, or did the installer not do it? I tried calling when i found out, so i can ask him, but they closed for the weekend couple of hours ago.

oh and also with this viper sst, is it supposed to turn the interior lights on and off with arming and disarming just like the factory setup, or do these clifford/viper not do this?

Thanks!!

[mountainbiker]

I don't have an aftermarket alarm on my HUMMER. The following is, however, my experience with my Ford Explorer and its 10 year old Viper:

Originally Posted by marin8703

With this new alarm i got, when its armed, and i put the key in the ignition, the alarm starts sounding, but the engine starts fine. Isnt it supposed to be dissbaled?

With my Viper armed and alarm sounding, I can place the key in the ignition and start it. I use this way to quickly get the alarm to stop.

Originally Posted by marin8703

Also, the factory alarm is basically still active and i can use it instead of the viper. I tried the same thing on it and the car started. Doesnt the factory alarm dissable the starter or fuel pump or something?

My factory system is still there and alive. I have once locked/armed the vehicle--accidently--one night with the factory fob. The next day unlocked with the Viper fob. When I got in the (factory) alarm went into action. In this case the key would not stop the maddnes.

[marin8703]

thanks for the reply, but when the alarm is sounding and i put the key in the ignition and start it, it starts and it doesnt turn off the alarm. I dont get that, either it should stop sounding and start, or keep sounding and not stop, rite?

On my mothers ford escape, the keys have a little transducer or watever it called, so when the alarm is sounding if you put the key in, the sound stops and the car starts, if the key is demagnatized (it happened to me once) the alarm will sound and the vehicle will not start. I know the h3 doest use that transducer key, i think someone said it uses passkey or something like that.

The viper sst i got does say it has failsafe starter kill. So why doesnt this expensive as hell doorstop kill the deam starter . Could the reason be that the installer might not have used a bypass module or something else that may be needed, cauze on the invoice, he charged me only for the alarm, a sensor, lights, and instrall. Doesnt say anything else.

Does anyone have any idea why this is, what i described in my previuos post.

Thanks for replies!

[mountainbiker]

While you are waiting for the members here to answer, go over to the DEI site and see if there is something in their FAQs. If not send them an email. I sent them an email a little while back, and it took 2 weeks exactly to answer. Not zippy -- but at least you might get something directly from the "horses mouth".

0215 at this end...night.

[aetherH3]

I called DEI the other day to ask about the Valet 561R Remote Start. The technician told me that is the ONLY thing required. I shouldn't need any bypasses for it to install on the H3. Circuit City blows goats.

[H3.007]

Do you have DEI's number? I stopped over to Circuit City the other day

and I think they tried to feed me a line of BS as well. I'd lik to chat with DEI and then the manager at CC - and his f'n goats.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Do you have DEI's number?

http://www.directed.com/contact/default.asp
1-800-876-0800, 1-760-598-6200 (Vista, CA)

[f5fstop]

My factory passkey system is still active; in other words, without A key, the vehicle will not run (starts/stalls).
The VIPER system requires me to insert the key, and push the hidden bypass button to start the vehicle if the alarm is sounding. To be honest, I can't remember if it cranked or just didn't start, this feature was demonstrated by the installer months ago. All I can say is it would not start and turn off the alarm, until he pressed the button a certain number of times.