IF YOU DRIVE AN FJ YOU MIGHT BE A SISSY

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by The Green Lantern

What happened to the plastic front bumper? hmmmm......

stock form , after tearing that $hit off LOL

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

stock form , after tearing that $hit off LOL

Don't look like a dumbass if you are gonna bash. It's an aftermarket ARB bumper that has a winch in it and they had to use that winch a ton this weekend. I suppose it's not considered stock since it has a Hi-lift on top either.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Don't look like a dumbass if you are gonna bash. It's an aftermarket ARB bumper that has a winch in it and they had to use that winch a ton this weekend.

Please take your own advice Paragon.

"Much of the time" gives the FJ more credit than "they had to use that winch a ton". And don't frame me as a web-wheeling FJ hater after I said the FJ's wheeling was awesome, that I respected its offroad ability and that I appreciate its strengths. I haven't wheeled with an FJ (yet) only because I never see them on my trail runs. But I've driven both the manual and auto FJ and studied their specs inside and out. I also posted a link detailing my position, which you conveniently ignored.

You still haven't explained why or how you know the FJ is better than the H3. What's your personal experience with them? Have you ever driven them? Tell us about it. Maybe you've just seen both on the trail, but we can't read your mind. All you've done is post awesome pictures of an FJ on an obstacle, which only shows what the FJ can do ... not what the H3 can't.

So once again, if you've seen an FJ succeed where an H3 got stuck, tell us about it ... or better yet take a pic. Otherwise, you're the web wheeler talking out of your ass.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

Please take your own advice Paragon.

"Much of the time" gives the FJ more credit than "they had to use that winch a ton". And don't frame me as a web-wheling FJ hater after I said the FJ's wheeling was awesome, that I respected its offroad ability and that I appreciate its strengths. I haven't wheeled with an FJ (yet) only because I never see them on my trail runs. But I've driven both the manual and auto FJ and studied their specs inside and out. I also posted a link detailing my position, which you conveniently ignored.

You still haven't explained why or how you know the FJ is better than the H3. What's your personal experience with them? Have you even driven them? Tell us about it. Maybe you've just seen both on the trail, but we can't read your mind. All you've done is post awesome pictures of an FJ on an obstacle, which only shows what the FJ can do ... not what the H3 can't.

So once again, if you've seen an FJ succeed where an H3 got stuck, tell us about it ... or better yet take a pic. Otherwise, you're the web wheeler talking out of your ass.

You are a fucking idiot!

You want to play word games to fix your butthurt? Fine. I really don't give rat's ass. Just makes you look more like the dumbass you apparently are comfortable being.

If you want to argue something, first STFU and read. Attempting to re-write what someone else has said and/or written is lame, at best. Saying the FJ winched much of the time is not giving it credit and is not accurate. Maybe I wasn't there, maybe I didn't see any of it and just photochopped my H2 into the pics. I specifically said they winched a ton, in reference to what and how much they wheeled there you can't accurately reword that into "much of the time" for your butthurt benefit.

Secondly, I didn't frame you as a "web-wheeling FJ hater." You did that all by yourself.

Lastly, I don't have to explain anything to you dicks. Anyone that cares to heed my opinion can have at it. As far as you web wheelers, I could give two shits.

Please let the rest of us know when you go wheeling on something more than dirt roads and follow these types of rigs.

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[PARAGON]

Because that's exactly what the little FJ did.

[The Green Lantern]

Where's this place at? I see the FJ has CA license plates.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

You are a fucking idiot!

You want to play word games to fix your butthurt? Fine. I really don't give rat's ass. Just makes you look more like the dumbass you apparently are comfortable being.

If you want to argue something, first STFU and read. Attempting to re-write what someone else has said and/or written is lame, at best. Saying the FJ winched much of the time is not giving it credit and is not accurate. Maybe I wasn't there, maybe I didn't see any of it and just photochopped my H2 into the pics. I specifically said they winched a ton, in reference to what and how much they wheeled there you can't accurately reword that into "much of the time" for your butthurt benefit.

Secondly, I didn't frame you as a "web-wheeling FJ hater." You did that all by yourself.

Lastly, I don't have to explain anything to you dicks. Anyone that cares to heed my opinion can have at it. As far as you web wheelers, I could give two shits.

Please let the rest of us know when you go wheeling on something more than dirt roads and follow these types of rigs.

Wow paragon, you're wound out pretty tight. I'm not trying to give you an ulcer. I just want to know why you said the FJ performs better offroad than the H3. Because "paragon said so" isn't good enough for me.

I've explained very clearly why I chose the H3 over the FJ after my test drives and research. I was hoping for a logical coherent explanation of why you would choose differently. I already respect the FJ's engineering (tho I hate it's exterior design), and I'm genuinely interested in your opinion. But your name calling, obscenities and insults are out of line.

For myself, I wasn't trying to twist what you said. You wrote "they had to use that winch a ton this weekend". "Had to" means the winch was required. And unless you actually meant 2000 lbs, "a ton" means a lot of the time. "Much" means a lot. So when I wrote "they needed the winch much of the time" I was directly paraphrasing you, not playing word games.

I don't care if you love the FJ, or if you just hate the H3. But if you have a rational explanation for believing the FJ is superior, then let's have it. Otherwise, thanks for the cool picture of the FJ and please get some anger management.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

Wow paragon, you're wound out pretty tight. I'm not trying to give you an ulcer. I just want to know why you said the FJ performs better offroad than the H3. Because "paragon said so" isn't good enough for me.

I've explained very clearly why I chose the H3 over the FJ after my test drives and research. I was hoping for a logical coherent explanation of why you would choose differently. I already respect the FJ's engineering (tho I hate it's exterior design), and I'm genuinely interested in your opinion. But your name calling, obscenities and insults are out of line.

For myself, I wasn't trying to twist what you said. You wrote "they had to use that winch a ton this weekend". "Had to" means the winch was required. And unless you actually meant 2000 lbs, "a ton" means a lot of the time. "Much" means a lot. So when I wrote "they needed the winch much of the time" I was directly paraphrasing you, not playing word games.

I don't care if you love the FJ, or if you just hate the H3. But if you have a rational explanation for believing the FJ is superior, then let's have it. Otherwise, thanks for the cool picture of the FJ and please get some anger management.

You have no idea who I am or what I am like. Wound tight is the farthest of explanations of my demeanor. Simply stating one's convictions is not being "wound tight." The fact that I add colorful adjectives and nouns is simple. It make for better reading and makes numbskulls like you get riled for no reason.

You are still trying to twist things while all-the-while claiming differently. I've never stated what vehicle I would choose. Never proposed which one I "liked." Never stated that the FJ was superior. I stated that the FJ could outwheel the H3. I've wheeled with both and it's a simple fact. Cut it how you want. It's just the way it is.

I don't need any satisfaction from H3 owners, H2 owners nor FJ owners for that matter, so, at this point, my willingness to detail why has long since left.

When I posted pictures and dick H3 owners start questioning my comments about the trucks being stock because they don't have the original bumper, I have absolutely no desire to be any more informative.

So, again, I don't feel the need to explain anything.

[dеiтайожни]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Never stated that the FJ was superior. I stated that the FJ could outwheel the H3.

You never did? My mistake. Oh wait, next sentence!

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Never stated that the FJ was superior. I stated that the FJ could outwheel the H3.

So, again, I don't feel the need to explain anything.

Really?

Originally Posted by paragon

After this weekend, all I can say is FJ Cruisers > H3

Looks like you said "After this weekend, all I can say is FJ Cruisers are greater than H3."

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

You have no idea who I am or what I am like. Wound tight is the farthest of explanations of my demeanor. Simply stating one's convictions is not being "wound tight." The fact that I add colorful adjectives and nouns is simple. It make for better reading and makes numbskulls like you get riled for no reason.

You are still trying to twist things while all-the-while claiming differently. I've never stated what vehicle I would choose. Never proposed which one I "liked." Never stated that the FJ was superior. I stated that the FJ could outwheel the H3. I've wheeled with both and it's a simple fact. Cut it how you want. It's just the way it is.

I don't need any satisfaction from H3 owners, H2 owners nor FJ owners for that matter, so, at this point, my willingness to detail why has long since left.

When I posted pictures and dick H3 owners start questioning my comments about the trucks being stock because they don't have the original bumper, I have absolutely no desire to be any more informative.

So, again, I don't feel the need to explain anything.

Nah, not a bit riled. It's actually making my sick day go a little faster.

I wish you would state your convictions tho. Your rants and invective are getting old. It's always the same old "you're a dick", "you're an idiot", "you're a dumbass" or "you're butthurt" every time somebody disagrees with you, has a different opinion or asks you to explain yourself. People say you're a great wheeler with tons of experience and great advice. Could be true, but who would know it with all the name-calling.

You'd have a lot more credibility if you'd build people up instead of cutting them down. You have 22,700 posts for gods sake. That's quite a legacy of insults and invective. Can you imagine all the people you could have helped or advice you could have given instead? But you'd rather rile people up and call them names. What a waste.

[ZigsRig]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

please get some anger management.

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

Wow paragon, you're wound out pretty tight. I'm not trying to give you an ulcer. I just want to know why you said the FJ performs better offroad than the H3. Because "paragon said so" isn't good enough for me.

I've explained very clearly why I chose the H3 over the FJ after my test drives and research. I was hoping for a logical coherent explanation of why you would choose differently. I already respect the FJ's engineering (tho I hate it's exterior design), and I'm genuinely interested in your opinion. But your name calling, obscenities and insults are out of line.

For myself, I wasn't trying to twist what you said. You wrote "they had to use that winch a ton this weekend". "Had to" means the winch was required. And unless you actually meant 2000 lbs, "a ton" means a lot of the time. "Much" means a lot. So when I wrote "they needed the winch much of the time" I was directly paraphrasing you, not playing word games.

I don't care if you love the FJ, or if you just hate the H3. But if you have a rational explanation for believing the FJ is superior, then let's have it. Otherwise, thanks for the cool picture of the FJ and please get some anger management.

You nailed it dude. This guy is a post whore...web wheeler (I had never heard that before he brought it up and seeing his post count there is no way he actually prys his ass out of that chair to hit the trails.)

I too looked at the FJ/Rubi/H3 before pulling the trigger. I chose the H3 for the sum of the parts not the fact that some putz saw someone do something with a one rig he thinks the other rig could not pull off.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

You nailed it dude. This guy is a post whore...web wheeler (I had never heard that before he brought it up and seeing his post count there is no way he actually prys his ass out of that chair to hit the trails.)

I too looked at the FJ/Rubi/H3 before pulling the trigger. I chose the H3 for the sum of the parts not the fact that some putz saw someone do something with a one rig he thinks the other rig could not pull off.

Right, I'm the web-wheeler.

Tell you what. When you think you have wheeled more trail than me, let me know and let's compare notes.

I'm betting I've wheeled more trail with my H2 than you've wheeled period.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Don't look like a dumbass if you are gonna bash. It's an aftermarket ARB bumper that has a winch in it and they had to use that winch a ton this weekend. I suppose it's not considered stock since it has a Hi-lift on top either.

if you want respect for your beloved KY's go to the RAV-4 forum they might look up to you , you aint gettin it from us

[NEOCON1]

the modded heeps are nice but i have a dozen of them in my new neighborhood funny we see them on the trails alot . but where are the private owners with the KY's ??? . Im just out there in my lil ol H3 stock except tires

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

the modded heeps are nice but i have a dozen of them in my new neighborhood funny we see them on the trails alot . but where are the private owners with the KY's ??? . Im just out there in my lil ol H3 stock except tires

Why not just STFU before you idiots swallow your whole legs along with your feet? I'm not posting this nor am I trolling with this in the H3 forums. Simply passing along information that people interesting in wheeling are interested in. If I want to talk smack and ruin H3 owner's day, I would take what I know about the H3 and what I saw the FJ do and go all over the H3 forum and post it and watch all of you cry to Jason about it after getting more butthurt than you are now.

As far as your dumbass comment about private owners:

[RazM]

At first I thought someone stole Paragon's login and password, then I saw all the mindless name calling...

It's a f*cking joke to claim a stock FJ is better than an H3, especially after what we've seen fellow members accomplish.

This thread should have some links to free Advil samples.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by RazM

At first I thought someone stole Paragon's login and password, then I saw all the mindless name calling...

It's a f*cking joke to claim a stock FJ is better than an H3, especially after what we've seen fellow members accomplish.

This thread should have some links to free Advil samples.

I think that's the first time I've seen anyone "get it."

Otherwise you're dumb as the rest. Show me someone on this board better qualified to make a "claim" than me. On top of that, show me someone that has been on this board longer, has wheeled a wider variety of trails AND rigs, and has proven to be more objective than anything else.

You dumbasses stumbled into the wrong wall.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Why not just STFU before you idiots swallow your whole legs along with your feet? I'm not posting this nor am I trolling with this in the H3 forums. Simply passing along information that people interesting in wheeling are interested in. If I want to talk smack and ruin H3 owner's day, I would take what I know about the H3 and what I saw the FJ do and go all over the H3 forum and post it and watch all of you cry to Jason about it after getting more butthurt than you are now.

As far as your dumbass comment about private owners:

FHUKIN H2 TROLLS ARE