JK vs. H3

[Mr. I - Man]

Originally Posted by buy_a_legend

You made an A$$ out of yourself,...you young(non-combat)BOOT. I'm gone now(Rubher Yellow Ducky)......

You came in here bragging about two purples. The NAM w/ the combat V is way more impressive(much respect). Watch who you calling a boot old man or a boot might find its way crammed up your non-Grunt a$$.

BTW The is a Hummer message board not a VFW hall. I have much respect for veterans being one myself, But the chest thumping I've been there done that got the T-shirt crap is a bit childish or a you would call it boot behavior. You seem very stuck on this part of your life, but what have you done since Nam??? We can talk trucks,Jeeps and Hummers all day, but please don't pull the rank sh*t especially only as a Sergeant. That is all
Semper Fi

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

You came in here bragging about two purples. The NAM w/ the combat V is way more impressive(much respect). Watch who you calling a boot old man or a boot might find its way crammed up your non-Grunt a$$.

BTW The is a Hummer message board not a VFW hall. I have much respect for veterans being one myself, But the chest thumping I've been there done that got the T-shirt crap is a bit childish or a you would call it boot behavior. You seem very stuck on this part of your life, but what have you done since Nam??? We can talk trucks,Jeeps and Hummers all day, but please don't pull the rank sh*t especially only as a Sergeant. That is all
Semper Fi

Hes gone...

Back to the regular grill.

RYD

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

You came in here bragging about two purples. The NAM w/ the combat V is way more impressive(much respect). Watch who you calling a boot old man or a boot might find its way crammed up your non-Grunt a$$.

BTW The is a Hummer message board not a VFW hall. I have much respect for veterans being one myself, But the chest thumping I've been there done that got the T-shirt crap is a bit childish or a you would call it boot behavior. You seem very stuck on this part of your life, but what have you done since Nam??? We can talk trucks,Jeeps and Hummers all day, but please don't pull the rank sh*t especially only as a Sergeant. That is all
Semper Fi

OOH-RAH!

Respect begets respect. Show little and get little regardless of and most especially if you have "done something". Marine or not.

Besides, since when does your X model JK come close to the H3. Is it even 4wd or did you get the 2wd model. With the X or Sahara, you might as well have the IFS that the H3 has since you'll be snapping that weak D30 all the time. That IS IF you got the 4wd.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Looked at the new JK lineup last night. From the standpoint of everyday ease of use, comfort, and quality, forget it. Go with an H3. I haven't been in what felt more like a tin can since I rode in my friends Hyundai. The doors were like paper, and the back seat was pretty clausterphobic, especially with a giant speaker in your face hanging from the crossmember between the b-pillars. It might be the greatest Jeep ever, but it's got a long way to go to match the H3 as the best all-around 4-wheeler. If this is the best they've got, I hate to think about what the old Wranglers were like. No wonder they're usually trailered in/out. I wouldn't want to drive it on the highway either!

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

Looked at the new JK lineup last night. From the standpoint of everyday ease of use, comfort, and quality, forget it. Go with an H3. I haven't been in what felt more like a tin can since I rode in my friends Hyundai. The doors were like paper, and the back seat was pretty clausterphobic, especially with a giant speaker in your face hanging from the crossmember between the b-pillars. It might be the greatest Jeep ever, but it's got a long way to go to match the H3 as the best all-around 4-wheeler. If this is the best they've got, I hate to think about what the old Wranglers were like. No wonder they're usually trailered in/out. I wouldn't want to drive it on the highway either!

so, what does that make for rear seat room in the H3?

since it's smaller

Makes a pretty stupid and weak argument.

thank you for your deeply insightful and completely erroneous viewpoint. It will, in no way, sway any reader's opinion on either vehicle and has simply wasted electricity by moving electrons to post it and transmit it as data.

[KenP]

I like wasting electrons.

The interior is not as plush as the 3's, no question about that. I found the ride comparable to the 3.

There's MORE rear seat room in the JK. More headroom, legroom and hiproom. What may be throwing you off is the back of the rear seat. It's angle is more verticle then on the 3 and thus, IMO, not as comfortable as the 3.

Front and rear lockers, unbelievable approach and departure angles, more clearance, longer wheelbase... The JK is the best "out of the box" 4x4 on the market. It's not the best 4x4 to take on trips and to the mall. It's not nearly comfortable enough.

I've said it before, the JK will outperform the 3 and 2 stock vs stock. That's just the way it is. And a lifted JK is going to kill a similarly prepped 2/3.

But yeah, it's not as plush and comfy.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by KenP

Front and rear lockers, unbelievable approach and departure angles, more clearance, longer wheelbase... The JK is the best "out of the box" 4x4 on the market.

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't really care which is the best out of the box wheeler, since well over 90% of my seat time is on the road the H3 is the best fit for me. I was thinking earlier today about this debate as I sat behind a new JK. When comparing base vs base, which is better? Just curious because most of the comparisons that I see are a Rubi against an H3. I understand the Rubi is an incredible wheeler out of the box but what about the rest of the models? I realize they can be modded easier but that is not what we are talking about here either. Not trying to stir the pot, just curious.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

This thread is going on 6 months...

The H-4 will be out soon.

let this die already.....

RYD

[KenP]

Originally Posted by HummerNewbie

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't really care which is the best out of the box wheeler, since well over 90% of my seat time is on the road the H3 is the best fit for me. I was thinking earlier today about this debate as I sat behind a new JK. When comparing base vs base, which is better? Just curious because most of the comparisons that I see are a Rubi against an H3. I understand the Rubi is an incredible wheeler out of the box but what about the rest of the models? I realize they can be modded easier but that is not what we are talking about here either. Not trying to stir the pot, just curious.

You bought the right truck for yourself, there's no doubt about that. I'd get an H3 also, if comparing, if I spent so much time tooling around in it, but I don't.

The SFA is stronger than the Hummer IFS so the base vs base should theoretically tip toward the JK. It's also lighter and has more ground clearance.

But, as stated before, the JK is not nearly as polished on the interior as the 3.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by HummerNewbie

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't really care which is the best out of the box wheeler, since well over 90% of my seat time is on the road the H3 is the best fit for me. I was thinking earlier today about this debate as I sat behind a new JK. When comparing base vs base, which is better? Just curious because most of the comparisons that I see are a Rubi against an H3. I understand the Rubi is an incredible wheeler out of the box but what about the rest of the models? I realize they can be modded easier but that is not what we are talking about here either. Not trying to stir the pot, just curious.

Take the Rubi out and it's much, much harder to draw a conclusion on wheeling. I think the H3 would be a much better peformer.

Without the stabi-disco, the reliability of the D44s, the better t-case, f/r lockers, etc of the Rubi, the Sahara and the X just don't cut the mustard offroad, IMO.