whats a better offroader......

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Personal attacks on me is the best you ladies can do? I must say it's really touching how you little girlies come to the defense of your pansy-mobiles. Those crap boxes need all the help they can get ... and that's a fact.

You criticizing anything while using dialup = teh funnay

[KenP]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

You criticizing anything while using dialup = teh funnay

Haha!!! That made my day.

[H1izmabyatch]

Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. Hummers are NOT offrioad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer ... they get a Jeep. Fact. Hummer owners sometimes get a hankering to prove that they are more than spoilt little rich guys with more $ than sense, and every so often they hit some dirt roads and return to the office on Monday saying they went off-road. C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. Just the facts, ladies!

I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body???

[h2co-pilot]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. Hummers are NOT offrioad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer ... they get a Jeep. Fact. Hummer owners sometimes get a hankering to prove that they are more than spoilt little rich guys with more $ than sense, and every so often they hit some dirt roads and return to the office on Monday saying they went off-road. C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. Just the facts, ladies!

You saw this thread. Out of all the other threads. All the threads from Hummer owners wheeling in Moab, Paragon, Tellico, CO, K rocks, AZ, NC, North Carolina, the Rubicon etc...?

A thread that was started less than 12 hours ago? Oh you must have been googling H1 H2 and this particular thread came up? Oh no?
Ah, you came to the forum and went directly to the off-topic section.

Bitch please.

The Hummer is on your mind.

BTW- We have discussed this particular subject time and time again, only to watch the pathetic and uninformed cower and slither away. It's old.

Ding......

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

BTW- We have discussed this particular subject time and time again, only to watch the pathetic and uninformed cower and slither away. It's old.

x2

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. Hummers are NOT offrioad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer ... they get a Jeep. Fact. Hummer owners sometimes get a hankering to prove that they are more than spoilt little rich guys with more $ than sense, and every so often they hit some dirt roads and return to the office on Monday saying they went off-road. C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. Just the facts, ladies!

I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body???

Well your last statement proves you have never crawled under a Tahoe and compared the components to a H2.

As for Hummers; the only Hummers this guy is familiar with are the ones he gives his buddies in the grade school lavatory.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body???

Your credibility dun went bye bye.by self

[DRTYFN]

Naughty little bitch:

OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc.
OrgID: LVLT
Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd.
City: Broomfield
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80021

[H1izmabyatch]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Your credibility dun went bye bye.by self

Ah ... the truth cannot be denied; by your own admission, I DO have credibility. ha! hahahahahahahahah!!!
I haven't heard any of you crybabies deny that Jeep is the undisputable offroad King ... Hummer is a pretender, not even a contender, so it's understandable why you ladies are all in a tizzy over your Ark.

... We have discussed this particular subject time and time again, only to watch the pathetic and uninformed cower and slither away. It's old.

.... and yet you all flock to refute it like moths to a flame, like lambs to the slaughter ... why?


Hey, I didn't start this abortion of a thread, I just made it into a living thing. You should all thank me for brightening your Saturday.

[H1izmabyatch]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Naughty little bitch:

OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc.
OrgID: LVLT
Address: 1025 Eldorado Blvd.
City: Broomfield
StateProv: CO
PostalCode: 80021

And what is this supposed to be? What does this have to do whth the boringness that Hummer is?

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Ah ... the truth cannot be denied; by your own admission, I DO have credibility. ha! hahahahahahahahah!!!
I haven't heard any of you crybabies deny that Jeep is the undisputable offroad King ... Hummer is a pretender, not even a contender, so it's understandable why you ladies are all in a tizzy over your Ark.

.... and yet you all flock to refute it like moths to a flame, like lambs to the slaughter ... why?


Hey, I didn't start this abortion of a thread, I just made it into a living thing. You should all thank me for brightening your Saturday.

Damn it... is this Storydude?

[h2co-pilot]

You know, he does sound like our dumpster diving diva.

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Ah ... the truth cannot be denied; by your own admission, I DO have credibility. ha! hahahahahahahahah!!!No, really you don't.


I haven't heard any of you crybabies deny that Jeep is the undisputable offroad King ... Hummer is a pretender, not even a contender, so it's understandable why you ladies are all in a tizzy over your Ark. (Ah, your choice of words might be your unconscience reminding you that we can ford much deeper. )You say Jeep and not even a model. Your lack of technical debate material makes it impossible. Very few are even in the H2's class and/or worthy of such debate.

.... and yet you all flock to refute it like moths to a flame, like lambs to the slaughter ... why? So poetic, but I believe the 6 moths you speak of are just bored and enjoy the fact that you have been lurking here all day. Knowing that the Hummer name lives rent-free under your hair net.


Hey, I didn't start this abortion of a thread, I just made it into a living thing. You should all thank me for brightening your Saturday. It's like going into the bathroom and finding a different brand of toilet paper**, whether good nor bad, you still wipe your ass with it.

You know- on one of my 8 toilet paper holders in my 8 bedroom home, filled with glorious ozone thinning A/C in it's thousands upon thousands of wasted decorative square footage on this chilly Fall day just for the hell of it. But don't worry, my little counter wiping leaf licker, I had the gas fireplace on to warm my toes.

[GLBLWARMR]

[quote=H1izmabyatch]Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. (If you wanted to debate better wheelin vehicles then you would be discussing technical specs and not just spouting personal opinions. Hey you believe that the Jeep is more capable yet you have not provided any amplifying data to support your arguments.)

I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. (Well OK this was an a and b conversation C your way out anytime you want. Your delicate jeep was not even attacked and yet you felt you had to start sh*t)

Hummers are NOT offroad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. (Your opinion. You must show scientific proof before it is considered fact) Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer (Opinion again, most of the people here are serious offroaders and they use their hummers in that manner)

C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. (Opinion, it is not the vehicle but the driver. Any vehicle can be an off road vehicle but if the driver can't do **** with it then the vehicle is a waste)

I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body??? (Show the proof about the H2 being a glorified Tahoe!![/quote]

You have not shown any proof to back up your arguements. Until then they are just ramblings.

[RazM]

[quote=GLBLWARMR]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. (If you wanted to debate better wheelin vehicles then you would be discussing technical specs and not just spouting personal opinions. Hey you believe that the Jeep is more capable yet you have not provided any amplifying data to support your arguments.)

I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. (Well OK this was an a and b conversation C your way out anytime you want. Your delicate jeep was not even attacked and yet you felt you had to start sh*t)

Hummers are NOT offroad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. (Your opinion. You must show scientific proof before it is considered fact) Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer (Opinion again, most of the people here are serious offroaders and they use their hummers in that manner)

C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. (Opinion, it is not the vehicle but the driver. Any vehicle can be an off road vehicle but if the driver can't do **** with it then the vehicle is a waste)

I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body??? (Show the proof about the H2 being a glorified Tahoe!![/quote]

You have not shown any proof to back up your arguements. Until then they are just ramblings.

Lets be real here, this guy has a hard time figuring out what gender he is when he's filling out a credit application at his local 7/11, how can you expect him to find proof to his claims?

He probably tries to pump gas into his cigarette lighter.

troll-like...

[BlueHUMMERH2]

It's too bad you know. This was a halfway decent thread.

[NewHummerGuy]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Aww, it's pretty sad that you all have to resort to petty grade school finger pointing when the issues aren't personal. I didn't come here to get personal. I was just cruising by when I saw a thread that offended my delicate sensibilities and I had to respond. Hummers are NOT offrioad vehicles. Fact. The H2 and H3 are oversized, over prized grocery getters. Fact. Anyone seriously into offroading doesn't go out and buy a Hummer ... they get a Jeep. Fact. Hummer owners sometimes get a hankering to prove that they are more than spoilt little rich guys with more $ than sense, and every so often they hit some dirt roads and return to the office on Monday saying they went off-road. C'mon, let's stick to the vehicles. An 1985 Jeep CJ with lockers and 33's is a much more capable offroad vehicle than any H1, and the owner doesn't have to worry about taping magnets over his paint job. Fact. Just the facts, ladies!



I mean, honestly, have you ever heard anyone refer to a Tahoe as an offroad vehicle? Then why would you think that the H2 is, when it's basically a Taho with some fancy accessories and a wanna-be Jeep body???

Evening ASSHAT

Just one question for this last ingenious statement of yours......

Please prove any of the statements you mentioned above and tagged with FACT!!!!

Please do this for me.

And next time you better not skimp on the fries bitch

[MarineHawk]

I've seen significantly modified jeeps that can go where my H2 can't. I also know some stock ones can slip through tight areas easier as well or at least get less scratches on their cheap paint. But, ignoring limited Jeep-opportunity-type obstacles, I have trouble getting over the three hours we spent last April behind two hopelessly-stuck Rubis (front and rear lockers) and one Wrangler on a Paragon Blue-3 trail before Hi-Mo winched the front one out from behind and then Larson proceeded to power his stock H2 right over the same obstacles with authoritative ease.

[evomind2]

well.....
besides a few constructive comments, this thread has been tarnished with drivel.
no one is knocking jeeps. jeeps werent the topic though. if all i wanted was a pure offroad vehicle, i might consider one. some of us like to have some style and comfort to go along with it though. some refinement when we use the vehicle to go out saturday night.
i offroad my lifted h3 and ive seen jeeps go where i wont go. ive seen beat to **** toyota pickups go where i wont go. not because i cant, but because i didnt like the idea of sideswiping my truck against a boulder to do it. jeepers dont care. guys in beat to **** toyota pickups dont care. if i sustain unforseen damage im not gonna sit down and cry abt it if it happens, but im not gonna purposefully use some big boulder to scrape against so i can get by.
ive forded water half way up my doors and not a drop gets inside. the jeepers did it (lifted like me) but they were sitting chest high in water to do it.
there is a big difference in refinement between the two vehicles.

back to topic.....
more specifically, i have a lifted h3 which im very happy with but after seeing an sut with the 6" fabtech lift i started thinking abt that. awesome vehicle on road, and wondered how good they are offroad. are they too top heavy?
lately ive been thinking of spending a few extra bucks and get an 03-04 convertible h1 and modding that. 2" lift, 2" body lift, bigger tires, rock rails, etc etc.....ive always thought the h1's were cool and i enjoyed driving it on the test drives ive taken.
so the question becomes besides the aesthetics, whats a better, more durable offroader, a lifted h2 or a slightly lifted h1 with some goodies and why?
are the doors water tight, unlike most jeeps? are the 6" lifted suts too top heavy and prone to roll?
are the h1's durable?
another aspect of the h1 that i like is i dont think an 03 or 04 will depreciate so much over the next several years.
comments?