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12-01-2006, 04:37 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
wouldn't a real offroad suspension lift solve a lot of things? (besides our weak front diffs)
I'm still waiting and hoping one will be available some day. If FJ's and JK's don't take over the world first.

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12-01-2006, 05:18 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
I saw the title of this thread and knew this would be a yawner 
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12-01-2006, 05:20 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
Oh sure ....fine.
Someone with some brains shows up and I don't even get a schoolin' ???
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12-01-2006, 05:32 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
it's really not all that simple if you want to try to maintain a close to stock ride.
First the tbars have to be the same lenghth and a similar torsional rate to work with the truck. The front suspension was designed to work with that rate of bars.
I think even Rancho makes some aftermarket tbars for 'yotas, but they had to put some R&D into it.
Typically you don't have cross-over of a tbar from one vehicle to another that's on different platforms, it just wouldn't work.
I would imagine there would be some way to take the bars off and by heating and cooling a little, increase their torsional rigidity but maintain their overal rate. What that would do would be to strengthen the movement so it's not as bouncy but would probably make it slightly harsher.
Someone that knows metallurgy could better give an idea if it would be an answer.
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12-01-2006, 05:49 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
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Originally Posted by PARAGON
I would imagine there would be some way to take the bars off and by heating and cooling a little, increase their torsional rigidity but maintain their overal rate. What that would do would be to strengthen the movement so it's not as bouncy but would probably make it slightly harsher.
Someone that knows metallurgy could better give an idea if it would be an answer.
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Well thank you...that makes sense.
OH TRENT!!!! I have a question for you 
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12-01-2006, 06:03 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
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Originally Posted by PARAGON
I would imagine there would be some way to take the bars off and by heating and cooling a little, increase their torsional rigidity but maintain their overal rate. What that would do would be to strengthen the movement so it's not as bouncy but would probably make it slightly harsher.
Someone that knows metallurgy could better give an idea if it would be an answer.
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Tortional rigidity: A common complication of a Viagra overdose.
Metalurgy: The sensation that you are about to pee your pants at a rock concert.
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Typically you don't have cross-over of a tbar
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Crossover of a tbar: A transvestite male in a female strip club.
Sorry, but I just can't help myself when you talk dirty like that. 
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12-01-2006, 06:11 AM
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Tortional rigidity: A common complication of a Viagra overdose.
Metalurgy: The sensation that you are about to pee your pants at a rock concert.
Crossover of a tbar: A transvestite male in a female strip club.
Sorry, but I just can't help myself when you talk dirty like that. 
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You have ghey on the brain......  
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12-01-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: I was thinking.......
Maybe if the H3's sell well in Austraila ARB might get on the ball with suspensions and lockers for us.
I put heavy duty T-bars (from Downey) in my Toyota truck and they worked great I had a winch on it and it was about 1-1.5" higher than stock. They were larger diameter.
I have aslo seen some progressive (2-stage) t-bars on a toyota.
T-Bars are a bit more complicated than leaf springs and ad -leaves
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12-01-2006, 06:10 AM
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Re: I was thinking.......
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First the tbars have to be the same lenghth and a similar torsional rate to work with the truck. The front suspension was designed to work with that rate of bars.
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But if you are increasing weight and height on a half ton truck to that of a 3/4 ton truck, the 3/4 ton truck bars won't work?
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I think even Rancho makes some aftermarket tbars for 'yotas, but they had to put some R&D into it.
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Those are the ones I saw, and they do come in more than a couple of their lift kits.
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Typically you don't have cross-over of a tbar from one vehicle to another that's on different platforms, it just wouldn't work.
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I would imagine there would be some way to take the bars off and by heating and cooling a little, increase their torsional rigidity but maintain their overal rate. What that would do would be to strengthen the movement so it's not as bouncy but would probably make it slightly harsher.
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Would a shop like this be worth contacting??? http://sacramentospring.com/index.html
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12-01-2006, 06:01 PM
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Re: I was thinking.......
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But if you are increasing weight and height on a half ton truck to that of a 3/4 ton truck, the 3/4 ton truck bars won't work?
Those are the ones I saw, and they do come in more than a couple of their lift kits.
K.
Would a shop like this be worth contacting??? http://sacramentospring.com/index.html
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Meh, check with these guys and see if they can come up with anything or know of someone who could.
http://www.swayaway.com/PowerBarz%20frameset.htm
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