I just found the real reason for the layoffs

[OffRoad4Me]

Its because of the arrogant attitudes of the dealers! One of them told me that I was lucky he was only charging msrp, that others were marking them up even more. That only happens when a vehicle is in high demand and short supply! I understand they have to make a profit to stay in business, and I want them to make a modest profit, but meet me somewhere in the middle.

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

Its because of the arrogant attitudes of the dealers! One of them told me that I was lucky he was only charging msrp, that others were marking them up even more. That only happens when a vehicle is in high demand and short supply! I understand they have to make a profit to stay in business, and I want them to make a modest profit, but meet me somewhere in the middle.

That's probably a small part of it. It's strange that they are still like this. It's sooo 2003.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

Its because of the arrogant attitudes of the dealers! One of them told me that I was lucky he was only charging msrp, that others were marking them up even more. That only happens when a vehicle is in high demand and short supply! I understand they have to make a profit to stay in business, and I want them to make a modest profit, but meet me somewhere in the middle.

Which dealer said this?

Who there said it?

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Which dealer said this?

Who there said it?

This still MedVed's position on Sales and Service.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

This still MedVed's position on Sales and Service.

I think my truck needs service on the way to Moab....

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

I think my truck needs service on the way to Moab....

Just get it to Evergreen and I'll repair it for ya. A little duct tape, a little welding, sew some seat covers for ya, and you're good to go. I will only be 1/2 as snobby.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Just get it to Evergreen and I'll repair it for ya. A little duct tape, a little welding, sew some seat covers for ya, and you're good to go. I will only be 1/2 as snobby.

are you going to have my new rockers done by then

For $150, shipped, you can get a new set of stock ones off ebay to utilize the brackets.

$150 is cheap to not have to make the brackets

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

are you going to have my new rockers done by then

For $150, shipped, you can get a new set of stock ones off ebay to utilize the brackets.

$150 is cheap to not have to make the brackets

Making the brackets would simple, and a better approach. I was lazy and didn't want to make another trip the metal yard.

I'd simply buy 4 feet of 2.5" x 7", 1/4 inch rect tubing which would only cost about $35. Then, cut out like this and get the 10 brackets.

Cut center out of the bracket rear on the driver's side for the brake line. That's about it. It would upgrade the bracket for the stock 3/16" to 1/4". Beefier. Plus, not grinding of the powdercoating for welding.

[PARAGON]

so you would have one spare one in case you screw one of them up

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

so you would have one spare one in case you screw one of them up

No, the extra one would be submitted to the Hummer Legends Hall of Fame.

[OffRoad4Me]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Which dealer said this?

Who there said it?

I really don't want to name the dealer. But I can say that same dealer also said:

"The warranty on 06s is 4yr/75k miles", (not 50k like the website said).
"The 07 H2s have a 6.6 V8, the 06 had a 6.0", (I thought only H1s had a 6.6).
"The H2 does have side air bags, see that square cap behind the seat."
"The OnStar calling out uses satellite, not cellular."

That along with some other statements I can't remember right now but seem contrary to everything I've read.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

I really don't want to name the dealer. But I can say that same dealer also said:

"The warranty on 06s is 4yr/75k miles", (not 50k like the website said).
"The 07 H2s have a 6.6 V8, the 06 had a 6.0", (I thought only H1s had a 6.6).
"The H2 does have side air bags, see that square cap behind the seat."
"The OnStar calling out uses satellite, not cellular."

That along with some other statements I can't remember right now but seem contrary to everything I've read.

You really should state where this was said. How do we get things corrected if we don't know where it's happening?

[MONSTERMATT]

car dealers are LOSERS

[timgco]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

You really should state where this was said. How do we get things corrected if we don't know where it's happening?

Some of us here talk to all the HUMMER dealers on a regular absis. This info would be good to knwo, so it can be corrected as Paragon had mentioned. Inacurate information and uppity attitude needs to be addressed. If you are hesitant to list this in the open forum, please feel free to PM me and it will be kept confidential.

[OffRoad4Me]

Originally Posted by timgco

Inacurate information and uppity attitude needs to be addressed. If you are hesitant to list this in the open forum, please feel free to PM me and it will be kept confidential.

At least give it a day or two to make sure they don't reconsider. They were very nice, let us take a demo overnight. I hate to get them in trouble. I was ready to buy if they had only taken a little off msrp. I've also watched their web based inventory closely for nearly two months and it looks like they really would rather keep their vehicles?

[timgco]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

At least give it a day or two to make sure they don't reconsider. They were very nice, let us take a demo overnight. I hate to get them in trouble. I was ready to buy if they had only taken a little off msrp. I've also watched their web based inventory closely for nearly two months and it looks like they really would rather keep their vehicles?

They won't get in trouble. It's just noted. Every HUMMER dealer is "graded" quarterly on service and sales. Good and bad is noted for each dealer. It goes into a database and looked at quarterly for review. This helps each dealer provide better future sales/service and gives them more information on existing employees.

[timgco]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

At least give it a day or two to make sure they don't reconsider. They were very nice, let us take a demo overnight. I hate to get them in trouble. I was ready to buy if they had only taken a little off msrp. I've also watched their web based inventory closely for nearly two months and it looks like they really would rather keep their vehicles?

btw- why are you going into the dealer without a supplier discount certificate? Someone here will have one for you. than there's no negotitation at all... unless you have a trade.

get a GM IN THE DRIVEWAY Cert.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by timgco

btw- why are you going into the dealer without a supplier discount certificate? Someone here will have one for you. than there's no negotitation at all... unless you have a trade.

get a GM IN THE DRIVEWAY Cert.

X2 Just start a thread asking for one.

[OffRoad4Me]

Originally Posted by timgco

btw- why are you going into the dealer without a supplier discount certificate? Someone here will have one for you. than there's no negotitation at all... unless you have a trade.

get a GM IN THE DRIVEWAY Cert.

That don't sound quite fair, I don't have any connections to GM. I just want a fair deal where the dealer makes 3k+ (not 6k+) profit.

[timgco]

Originally Posted by OffRoad4Me

That don't sound quite fair, I don't have any connections to GM. I just a fair deal where the dealer makes 3k+ (not 6k+) profit.

So, you are willing to give them 3K? that's great! I have some parts I'll sell you at a fair deal too.

$500 over invoice still gets them their hold back and is a common price today as long as it's not a limited eddition.

Either you are dealing with a new salesman or you are dealing with Medved.

you don't need a connection with GM to get the cert.

What state are you in?