the H20 crew & Beebs run

[NEOCON1]

thats it

[RuggedH2]

Very cool Neo!

Did Bebe have any issues with "overhang"? I think I read somewhere that it will now get hung up on "the easiest of obstacles". Potato salad hill is not the "easiest of obstacles". The overhang doesn't look bad at all from the pics.

I'm not trying to sound negative at all, I think Bebe's rig looks tough. Does she think "overhang" is going to be a big consideration on the line she takes?

[ree]

Stop with the overhang questions. She's said several times on several related threads that she thinks her approach angle was improved. So even if the overhang is greater than stock, how is she worse off? Improved angle + . slickly mounted multi mount winch + much more rugged bumper = a win in my book!

[Demo]

Awesome!!!

[NEOCON1]

the approach angle has been improved , the departure angle has REALLY been improved too !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NEOCON1]

sorry i didant get a better one showing the departure

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

We want to see a picture of the QUEEN herself.

RYD

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

We want to see a picture of the QUEEN herself.

RYD

sorry but with the current political situation and threat of terrorism we must keep the Queens exposure to a minnimum not to mention the threat of photo chop

Long Live the Queen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[frenzy1]

GREAT PICS !!!

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

sorry but with the current political situation and threat of terrorism we must keep the Queens exposure to a minnimum not to mention the threat of photo chop

Long Live the Queen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by ree

Stop with the overhang questions. She's said several times on several related threads that she thinks her approach angle was improved. So even if the overhang is greater than stock, how is she worse off? Improved angle + . slickly mounted multi mount winch + much more rugged bumper = a win in my book!

Listen Ree,

I didn't bring up the original question about the "overhang". Matter of fact I got called a "dumbass" because I didn't think it would be much of an issue. I am not being negative about those mods in the least, read the other threads!

The subject was brought up, like I described above, and she had yet to wheel with it. Now she has, and might have discussed her thoughts on the issue. I wondered if she thinks it a legitimate argument, that's it, nothing more.

I would ask her opinion first hand on the same issue, but I thought she was traveling home. The thing about the internet is, she will see the question herself and say what she wants.

Thanks for your concern.

[ree]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Matter of fact I got called a "dumbass" because I didn't think it would be much of an issue.

Uh. You got called a dumbass by Donky Kong, who was clearly stirring people up with nonsense. If you view that as a serious indictment of your stupidity and then second guess your intuition that increased overhang despite improved approach angle wouldn't be an issue, then I guess Donky Kong's insult was warranted.

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by ree

Uh. You got called a dumbass by Donky Kong, who was clearly stirring people up with nonsense. If you view that as a serious indictment of your stupidity and then second guess your intuition that increased overhang despite improved approach angle wouldn't be an issue, then I guess Donky Kong's insult was warranted.

Ok so I'm a dumbass, I've been called worse.

Thing is, until she wheeled it, she was estimating. Now she has some experience with it (potato salad hill is not a just backyard obstacle).

The rest of us are all just looking at photo's.

I have been supportive of these mods from the beginning. Donkey Kong called me a dumbass for the same conclusions about that bumper that you're making. We must both be dumbasses. The guy behind DK was attempting to make a legitimate argument about overhang.

I just wanted her perspective, now that she had some off road time with it on a big f*ckin rock. Photos were taken to show approach and departure angles. Bebe addressed the issue here, before she had the chance to wheel it. Now she has.

We both read the threads, maybe some others did too. Maybe it is a consideration and maybe not, I would like to know what she thinks. Not to give her sh!t or to kiss her ass. Mostly because I'm about to hang a winch out in front of my front bumper too. Nothing wrong with truth.

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Ok so I'm a dumbass, I've been called worse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ree
Uh. You got called a dumbass by Donky Kong, who was clearly stirring people up with nonsense. If you view that as a serious indictment of your stupidity and then second guess your intuition that increased overhang despite improved approach angle wouldn't be an issue, then I guess Donky Kong's insult was warranted.

Would you two dumbasses please knock it off?

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Ok so I'm a dumbass, I've been called worse.

Thing is, until she wheeled it, she was estimating. Now she has some experience with it (potato salad hill is not a just backyard obstacle).

The rest of us are all just looking at photo's.

I have been supportive of these mods from the beginning. Donkey Kong called me a dumbass for the same conclusions about that bumper that you're making. We must both be dumbasses. The guy behind DK was attempting to make a legitimate argument about overhang.

I just wanted her perspective, now that she had some off road time with it on a big f*ckin rock. Photos were taken to show approach and departure angles. Bebe addressed the issue here, before she had the chance to wheel it. Now she has.

We both read the threads, maybe some others did too. Maybe it is a consideration and maybe not, I would like to know what she thinks. Not to give her sh!t or to kiss her ass. Mostly because I'm about to hang a winch out in front of my front bumper too. Nothing wrong with truth.

Ok, here are my observations....

The guy behind DK was attempting to make a legitimate argument about overhang.

He was trying to argue approach angle at first until I pointed out the difference between approach and overhang. Therefore, there was nothing "legitimate" about it.

There is more overhang as stated, however, the new height of the overhang, negates any approach angle loss. It's strictly a visual perception. I did not hit at all in Moab.

I just wanted her perspective

I am very impressed with the esthetics, and design. It is very well thought out., and incredibly functional.

I was speaking with someone on the phone a couple of weeks ago, and yes, I will need to turn my torsion bars again to recover some of the height I have lost from the 250lbs. of weight hanging off the front.

Other than that, only time and wheeling will tell. So far, perfect.

Not to give her sh!t or to kiss her ass.

Kissing my ass is required for all n00bs.