Great results from PCM for Less tuning . . .

[JWSchmidt3]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

Huck brings up some good points. GM engineers balance power/mpg/durability/driveability/emissions carefully. Many of the PCM changes mentioned compromise durability, gas mileage and probably emissions in order to possibly eek out more power (which still needs to be proven). But we can always hope.

No they don't. GM engineers tune for worst case scenario under worst case conditions for exactly the warranty period. Damn, you Cali boys really need to get outside your borders more often.

[BuzzH3]

I have a couple questions. What if I get the tune, then a few months from now decide that I want to switch to 35's? Can I get an updated tune for a lower price or would I have to pay another $149?

Also, in the event that the dealer has to re-flash, is there a way to get a loaner while mine is being re-flashed with the new tune?

Sounds promising, even if it's imaginary!

But if it can be proven, that would be great.

[JWSchmidt3]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

Sounds promising, even if it's imaginary!

But if it can be proven, that would be great.

Over 2800 posts, were they all this intelligent??



Another internet work of art. Your kind aren't worth the effort, have a good one Jr.

JW - Good to hear from the master source, a dumb Texan with the "almost 700 hp Vette". Keep up the good work, even if all your posts aren't intelligent!

[JWSchmidt3]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

JW - Good to hear from the master source, a dumb Texan with the "almost 700 hp Vette". Keep up the good work, even if all your posts aren't intelligent!

Let's see, I along with many others on this and other sites have posted positive things about tuning from PCM for Less. In fact, I've yet to read a negative comment from any of their customers.

Then you come along, and have done nothing but whine and bitch that "you don't have proof", actually ignoring facts that have been presented by others over the course of this thread. It would seem that the "proof" of positive feedback, far outweighs your "proof" of negativity. So here's an idea, since you want proof so bad, why don't YOU prove that it doesn't work, because it seems the tally of those whom it has worked for, far outweighs those it hasn't.

BTW, thanks for proving my point with your idiotic comments above, it saves me having to make you look stupid.

Yours truly,

The dumb Texan with his almost 700 HP Corvette!!

JW - You started the stupidy and name calling, too bad.

btw - I think the PCM for less tuning does sound hopeful and maybe they will be able to prove or verify some favorable results. Of course we all seek ways to improve our H3's and appreciate the shared info here.

[JWSchmidt3]

Originally Posted by BuzzH3

I have a couple questions. What if I get the tune, then a few months from now decide that I want to switch to 35's? Can I get an updated tune for a lower price or would I have to pay another $149?

Also, in the event that the dealer has to re-flash, is there a way to get a loaner while mine is being re-flashed with the new tune?

Sorry for the drama, didn't want your question to get lost. Kelly can answer better, but I do not believe you pay full $$ again for simple changes, but hopefully Kelly will verify.

BTW, was cruising around the internet, and found another H3 "out of the box" tune, "on sale" for $499. I won't post a link, but just another example of how good a deal PCM for Less is.

[ChevyHighPerformance]

Originally Posted by BuzzH3

I have a couple questions. What if I get the tune, then a few months from now decide that I want to switch to 35's? Can I get an updated tune for a lower price or would I have to pay another $149?

Also, in the event that the dealer has to re-flash, is there a way to get a loaner while mine is being re-flashed with the new tune?

Just pay for the shipping and they'll change the program for you. It's best to hear this from Kelly though. Edit -> I was wrong about the cost; see Kelly's post below.

You have to ask them about the loaner PCM. I think they are pretty flexible and accomodating.

[Gottmud]

I just sent my PCM in for tuning. I have 35"s & a K&N air filter. I will give the board a review of the results as soon as I get it back from PCMforLess.

[Hunner]

Whoa horsey. I don't make attacks that was just about as silly as your statements. I made my comment because it sounded like a very negative attitude like all these people are lying about their products. Nobody is going to make you buy anything to improve performance. I do know some that dynoed with positive results. It just hit me that "here is somebody else that wants an education by getting people to do the research for him and still be doubtful of the results." So don't worry about it. I personally bought a PCM outright and have one programmed, end of problem.
I also have a diesel and it's a 95 Cummins and it's all mechanical to modify it. No electronic mumbo jumbo you actually have to get your hands dirty. I dynoed it at each stage and the same type of products showed positive results. But what does that have to do with a H3 I-5 except it tows mine real good on long hauls. What the heck something worked!

[Huck BB62]

Originally Posted by Hunner

Whoa horsey. I don't make attacks that was just about as silly as your statements. I made my comment because it sounded like a very negative attitude like all these people are lying about their products. Nobody is going to make you buy anything to improve performance. I do know some that dynoed with positive results. It just hit me that "here is somebody else that wants an education by getting people to do the research for him and still be doubtful of the results." So don't worry about it. I personally bought a PCM outright and have one programmed, end of problem.
I also have a diesel and it's a 95 Cummins and it's all mechanical to modify it. No electronic mumbo jumbo you actually have to get your hands dirty. I dynoed it at each stage and the same type of products showed positive results. But what does that have to do with a H3 I-5 except it tows mine real good on long hauls. What the heck something worked!

Fair enough, just asking a few questions, stating a few observations before I screwed with the brain on my Hummer. I didn't know there was a check valve on the dialogue. I'll just take other people's word for things now? I'm not doubting so much as asking pointed questions about what they're doing and how they're getting results that you guys are impressed with.

How much is a new brain, how much does it cost to get it programmed at the dealer should things go wrong? If the tranny pukes a week after it's installed, is Hummer going to deny the expensive claim? The reason I'm making a big deal about this is that I'm probably going to do the programming, just need a few questions answered before I hassle with it.

[31sonic]

Keliente what would the cost be to buy a pcm outright with a tune ?

[JWSchmidt3]

Originally Posted by keliente

So...bottom line. Is this tune going to be like bolting on a supercharger? No. Is it one of the best things you can do for the money? Absofreakin'loutely.

Thanks for replying Kelly.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by keliente

You will see graphs from the colorado/canyon, which shares the same engine. Your problem with the H3 is that the AWD is going to eat up a little more power, but that doesn't mean great gains can't be had. Like I said before...this isn't just like bolting on an exhaust and getting 10 hp and a cool sound at wide open throttle. This is something that benefits you during your entire drive cycle, whether you've got it matted to the floor or not.

Awwww man, I almost went for it. Until I read this paragraph.

First the H3 is not AWD. There is a difference. PCM for less AND Rancho need to get this right before you will get an ounce of respect from me.

Splitting hairs....maybe.

Colorado/Canyon share the same engine, but from the factory they are tuned differently.

YOUR LINK IS TO A 2-3 YEAR OLD CANYON TUNE.

Please provide an updated tune...in private if you must.

teh proof is in teh puddin'.

[CCMDoc]

Add me to the list of happy PCMforless customers.

I am about as hard-a$$ed when it comes to performance tunes as anyone and more than most. Ask Superchips, Powerchips and Absolut - I have worked with them all with a variety of cars and none were happy with my published and private comments. I dyno'ed my car before and after every single chip change (after doing whatever the chipper suggested was proper break-in) and not once did the dyno back up their claims.

On the other hand, my impression of the PCMforless tune is that "yes" there is modest improvement in power - let's face it 10-15 difference will not be noticeable in vehicles weighing what our H3s weigh. I was most interested in addressing shift points, the lousy feeling of "lugging" all of the time AND having it reprogrammed to account for my 35" MTs. Well, I got what i paid for and am very happy with it. My speedo now correlates with my GPS speed, it doesn't lug as it had, it does feel more peppy AND my gas mileage, which ahd dropped to 12 mpg (corrected for the odometer error associated with larger tires) when I went with 315/75-16 BFG MTs is now back up to 15mpg.