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03-14-2007, 05:53 PM
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Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
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Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Unfortunately, unless it is numbers representing a state majority or has to do with funding influence, it is very difficult for things like this to be taken seriously.
And gawd!, you think that the petitioner could have been a little more expanded in the cause. Like wildfires or access, something more concerning.
The only people concerned about off-roading are off-road enthusiusts. And even then, a trail is of concern- not acreage.
I think wide open and untouched spaces are a luxury in North America that is often taken for granted.
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I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.
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03-14-2007, 06:26 PM
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Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.
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Yeah, that's what I meant by expanding the petition to more than OHVs.
Somebody make a new one.  
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03-14-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.
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I agree that the general population is not aware of this. Wilderness areas do allow hunting, fishing biking, hiking etc....it allows everything BUT OHV use. That is why it is focused on OHV users.
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The California Wild Heritage Act protects these places by designating public lands owned by the American people as "wilderness" - the highest level of protection in federal law - and segments of California rivers as "wild and scenic." These areas would remain open for recreational activities such as horseback riding, fishing, hunting, hiking, backpacking, rock climbing and canoeing. It would also protect vital watersheds in our national forests, which are a source of California's drinking water supply. In addition, the bill would help protect vulnerable ecosystems and threatened species of plants and animals, such as salmon and trout.
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