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Old 04-19-2007, 11:30 PM
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Dear (YOUR CONGRESSMAN/SENATORS NAME HERE),

Regarding the introduction of America?s Red Rock Desert Act:

I am a camper, sightseer, lover of nature, its serenity, solace, and beauty, and am concerned with the environment. However, I see all the sights and travel to all these spectacular places in my 4-wheel drive vehicle.

I am asking that you do not close the off road vehicle trails in Moab, Utah. I have to inform you, that you and the groups that are sponsoring this bill are completely miss-informed. Off road enthusiasts DO care about the environment. We belong to organization such as The Blue Ribbon Coalition, Tread Lightly, United Four Wheel Drive Association, and WE ARE STEWARDS of the LAND.

We are legitimate responsible recreationists and should be recognized as such.


I understand preservation and protection, but you make yourself out to be an ignorant and uninformed elitist when you exclude 4-wheel drive recreation from the list of "non-consumptive" recreationists.

How do Hunters, fisherman, kayakers, hikers, equestrians and mountain bikers get to these incredible destinations? Most of them must drive, and a majority of them use an off-road-able four-wheel drive vehicle.

How are motorized/mechanized vehicles "consumptive" in the red rock desert or anywhere else for that matter?

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:47 AM
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Ugh, don't they have anything better to do then take away our public lands?
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You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.
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You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.


Does that comment come with a letter to your Senator and Congressmen??

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Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?
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Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?


everyone wants to fhuk with the Moab that would be the biggest economic disaster for our lil town . where would the jeepers go and who will buy my wood . thanx to the jeepers i had a $1,700.00 week when my average week is about $300.00 granted i only have to work 2 to 3 days
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thanx to the jeepers i had a $1,700.00 week when my average week is about $300.00 granted i only have to work 2 to 3 days


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Why don't these fawkers worry about their own states?!?!?
Because everybody else's business is more interesting.
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SUWA - America's Red Rock Wilderness Act
http://www.suwa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=work_arwa

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America's Red Rock Wilderness Act

America's Red Rock Wilderness Act seeks to serve the public interest by permanently protecting more than 9 million acres of wilderness-quality land in Utah. The proposal, based on an exhaustive field inventory conducted by citizen volunteers, was first introduced in Congress by former Utah Representative Wayne Owens in 1989. Representative Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) assumed the role of House sponsor in 1993 and Senator Richard Durbin (D-IL) introduced the Senate version in 1997.

With each new Congress (every two years), the bill has been reintroduced with steadily increasing bipartisan support. The 110th Congress represents a real opportunity to gather the support and momentum needed to hold congressional hearings and ultimately pass America?s Red Rock Wilderness Act. Our goal is to reach 218 House cosponsors of the bill (more than half the House membership) -- an important step in passing this legislation.

All lands proposed for wilderness designation in America's Red Rock Wilderness Act are owned by the American public and administered by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). The bill is supported by SUWA, the Wasatch Mountain Club, the Sierra Club, The Wilderness Society, the Natural Resources Defense Council, and more than 200 other national and regional conservation organizations belonging to the Utah Wilderness Coalition.
Here is the text of the House Bill HR1774
http://www.suwa.org/site/DocServer/A....pdf?docID=682

And the Senate S882
http://www.suwa.org/site/DocServer/A....pdf?docID=683

These are last bills, this years bill are not yet available.
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Does that comment come with a letter to your Senator and Congressmen??




Laugh all you want. You guys are going to wear down Moab with your aired-down tires and violent skid plates until it looks like this:
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You guys should learn to love mother nature rather than trying to abuse it with your obscenely massive machines.


Hey, out of all of us, You should know who to speak with and to whom we should really be directing our energy.
Please lend a hand in this... I know you know who I know.
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Hey, out of all of us, You should know who to speak with and to whom we should really be directing our energy.
Please lend a hand in this... I know you know who I know.

My firm is primarily a lobbying firm, though I'm a litigator. They are some of the best at what they do, but they're all way overworked with clients paying them upwards of $700/hr. They're about as likely to put on overalls and repair my roof as they are to do some free lobbying work for me. Unfortunately, spending money is the only way to get lobbying done. And I mean lots of it.
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My firm is primarily a lobbying firm, though I'm a litigator. They are some of the best at what they do, but they're all way overworked with clients paying them upwards of $700/hr. They're about as likely to put on overalls and repair my roof as they are to do some free lobbying work for me. Unfortunately, spending money is the only way to get lobbying done. And I mean lots of it.

Give them the heads up.......Moab Partmership could be giving them a call.


Speaking of Lobby:

It occured to me that the "Big 3" all have a stake in this. GM, Chrysler and Ford have all sunk a ton of money into developing off road capable vehicles. How likely would it be that we could enlist them for help in this fight?
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Give them the heads up.......Moab Partmership could be giving them a call.


Speaking of Lobby:

It occured to me that the "Big 3" all have a stake in this. GM, Chrysler and Ford have all sunk a ton of money into developing off road capable vehicles. How likely would it be that we could enlist them for help in this fight?

I think we need to create a fund enlisting all of the like-minded interests. I'll contribute.
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you probably scared the intern that reads these to death
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