New Bilstein / Cognito Hummer H3 Leveling Front Shocks???

[tomp]

Okay, shocks are on and test drive completed. I drove it around for a while and what a huge difference! Big improvement over stock ride quality, even with TBs cranked!

[HummBebe]

OOpsie


http://www.gorancho.com/flash/docs/2...shock_spec.pdf

[HummBebe]

I think, no wait I know that the Fox shock is FAR superior to any of these mentioned in this thread.

Yes they are pricey, but for the amount of money I have spent on shocks I could have bought a set of the Fox shocks.

The fox shocks are rebuildable. If you blow it, you can rebuild it for less than a replacement cost of the other shocks.

[Idaho-Hummer]

ok, I give up, where are you finding the Fox shocks at for our H3's?

[H3slate]

Fox shocks are available from Rod Hall Products. They are not listed on the website, but give them a call. When they are not racing they are very friendly and knowledgable.

http://www.rodhall.com/

1-877-ROD-HALL

HummBebe, have you purchased the fox shocks? I know they were recommended by a suspension guy working on HD torsion bars for the H3, just curious if you have had a chance to try the shocks.

[HummBebe]

No not yet, but soon. You can also get them from Sam at Samco Fab...

http://www.samcofabrication.com/index.html

He's even nicer

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

No not yet, but soon. You can also get them from Sam at Samco Fab...

http://www.samcofabrication.com/index.html

He's even nicer

Damn bebes, is there anyone you DON'T know! Oh, and thanx for the link

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by tomp

Okay, shocks are on and test drive completed. I drove it around for a while and what a huge difference! Big improvement over stock ride quality, even with TBs cranked!

Hey tomp, it's been a week .... do you still like the cognito's? I'm curious about body roll in turns, recovery after hard braking and shock response offroad.

[tomp]

Shocks are great. Definite big improvement over stock even with cranks TBs.

The body roll increase that occurs with cranking torsion bars partly occurs because you are no longer resting on the frame mounted bump stops. The shocks then assist with the body roll from there. I wouldn't necessarily say that these new shocks improve this situation any as I do not feel they are stiffer than the stock shocks.

High Pressure charged shocks really do not do a very good job at keeping body roll under control.

If after installing these shocks, you feel like it's still an issue (for me it's not) I would probably extend the bump stops to where they touch the control arm as they do from the factory. This should also assist with nose-dive when braking.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by tomp

Shocks are great. Definite big improvement over stock even with cranks TBs.

The body roll increase that occurs with cranking torsion bars partly occurs because you are no longer resting on the frame mounted bump stops. The shocks then assist with the body roll from there. I wouldn't necessarily say that these new shocks improve this situation any as I do not feel they are stiffer than the stock shocks.

High Pressure charged shocks really do not do a very good job at keeping body roll under control.

If after installing these shocks, you feel like it's still an issue (for me it's not) I would probably extend the bump stops to where they touch the control arm as they do from the factory. This should also assist with nose-dive when braking.

What about the HD torsion bars??? They should help with teh body roll?

[tomp]

not sure on that Bebe... would have to try it

However, I would think higher rate spring or TBs will place more demand on the shocks as the shock absorption rate of the shock will remain the same. This seems to me like it would worsen the body roll IMHO.

IMO, the best way to reduce body roll with cranked TBs would be stiffer sway bars and bushings, stiffer shocks and bump stops that touch the control arms like OEM. Keep in mind stiffer sway bars will reduce articulation. I wish someone would produce stiffer sway bars with quick disconnect links

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by tomp

not sure on that Bebe... would have to try it

However, I would think higher rate spring or TBs will place more demand on the shocks as the shock absorption rate of the shock will remain the same. This seems to me like it would worsen the body roll IMHO.

IMO, the best way to reduce body roll with cranked TBs would be stiffer sway bars and bushings, stiffer shocks and bump stops that touch the control arms like OEM. Keep in mind stiffer sway bars will reduce articulation. I wish someone would produce stiffer sway bars with quick disconnect links

Amstar was supposed to make some, but no sign of them on their new site

[H3slate]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

Amstar was supposed to make some, but no sign of them on their new site

They are to the right of the shocks. I was also disappointed with how some of their accessories disappeared when they changed names.