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06-22-2007, 08:29 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
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You're right, the extra height isn't much by itself. But I'm also thinking of tire weight and width.
The extra weight puts more stress on CVs and tie rods that are already angled out of spec. Between that, the t-bar preload, the new travel range and separation from the bump stop, the shocks are going to take a beating, which further stresses the front end. Tire weight also affects braking force and distance, and can cause heat buildup and glazing in the pads.
Steering components like tie rods and power steering pump will also suffer from the extra force required to overcome the larger contact patch. Then you take it on a trail and multiply all of the above by the stress of inertia and articulation.
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I guess the operative word here is "can". But in my case and Sewies, it hasn't so far. 
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06-22-2007, 08:38 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
Yep, "can" is the word ... it's not like I've done the math on it or anything, but I can see a dealer nixing some warranty items because of it.
Don't get me wrong tho ... I'd LOVE a set of 35's! With the right setup, like Cognito or Fox shocks and limiter straps, a lot of that stress is absorbed at the shock and won't damage the next part in line.
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06-22-2007, 09:18 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
So Aflax, how much did you crank the bars? I know I want to level the front end when it comes time. It seems there are plenty of you that have done it with no issues, what's the dealer's responce to that one?
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06-23-2007, 12:45 AM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
All I did was crank 2 turns and put on my 35s. I started getting a popping after a couple months, which dealer claims is from the TBars. The dealer (Bob Moore Hummer in OKC) put the 35's on for me and I cranked the bars. When I brought it in, they dropped the bars and said the noise went away then they went ahead and cranked them back up and gave me the car back to go on my way.
It seems to me that if the dealer can sell new H3's with lift kits and perfomance tunes under warranty that lt shouldnt be a problem to fix the problem that came from 2 turns of the bars?
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06-23-2007, 01:23 AM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
never ever admit to anything 
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06-25-2007, 03:02 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
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Good point
Are most dealers techs good enough to spot something like a crank on the t bars, or is it tough to tell with out measureing and stepping back and taking a good look from the side comparing it to another non lifted?
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06-25-2007, 04:17 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
No Sh1t...Too late for that...At least I learned my lesson...
Except for this incident, the dealer has been awesome. So I really should not be complaining too much.
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06-25-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
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Good point
Are most dealers techs good enough to spot something like a crank on the t bars, or is it tough to tell with out measureing and stepping back and taking a good look from the side comparing it to another non lifted?
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Not in this neck of the woods  They just think the raised appearance is due to fitting 33's  GMC dealer even did the alignment on warranty after I done mine a couple of turns 
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10-05-2007, 01:23 AM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
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02-16-2008, 05:54 AM
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Re: Warranty dont cover T-Bar Crank
Hummer encourages everyone to run their vehicles off-road and put them in places that damage can happen, so much that they send mechanics and parts to all Hummer events. I agree that if you "mod" your Hummer you could stand to void your warranty on the specific parts you "modded" , but adjustinging a t-bar is certainly not a "mod", but a simple adjustment.
I would talk to the Service Manager and explain your concerns and if that doesn't rectify the situation then tell him/her that you will be opening a ticket with Hummer and then actually do it. My guess is that they will ultimately cover the issue.
Let us know how it turns out.
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