Thanks guys, You 3bies are OK!
I didn't mean to turn the thread into liberal bashing, but I was surprised at the difference in the public perception between the two different models, (I was surprised by it, even in very conservative Utah). We still have Birkenstock wearing, bull dyke lesbian, Subaru Outback driving, enviro-mentals here.
(damn, until you posted on my thread, I still thought you were a sympathizer Stagger

ya damn hippie

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Paul I'm still trying to come up with a new username and I don't want to replace the avatar photo with a driveway pic. Besides, it's hard to come up with a username that Tahoe Co-pilot won't pervert to something I'm not crazy about like H3PO

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