Last one to prove my North Texas sucks to raise your family

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by NewHummerGuy

Well well well....now I know where I am buying my next vacation home

hahaha!!





I'm a little surprised about the Ft. Worth data. I go out to dinner downtown and in several surrounding areas almost every night and I haven't run into a crappy area. I'm not saying they don't exist, but you'd never notice it firsthand. You just read this stuff in the paper. I'm not from here, dont' live here, but I spend a TON of time in Ft. Worth. Almost everyone I work with is from Ft. Worth and they all seem to love it. The do have the chip on their shoulder where they feel they're overshadowed by Dallas. But they all seem to be very proud of their community.

[Badace]

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

hahaha!!





I'm a little surprised about the Ft. Worth data. I go out to dinner downtown and in several surrounding areas almost every night and I haven't run into a crappy area. I'm not saying they don't exist, but you'd never notice it firsthand. You just read this stuff in the paper. I'm not from here, dont' live here, but I spend a TON of time in Ft. Worth. Almost everyone I work with is from Ft. Worth and they all seem to love it. The do have the chip on their shoulder where they feel they're overshadowed by Dallas. But they all seem to be very proud of their community.

No. Fort Worth is Awesome to go to for dinner, night life. You are 100% right. Just don't venture off your direct routes because it is pretty bad.

It really is not day to day. It is just trending that way. Going to the grocery store is not what it was even 2 years ago. The hood rats riding bycicles in your neighborhood casing the places because you know they do not live in close vicinity. The mall is just a joke. Best Buy. Circuit City. Our window was busted out a year ago and we lost the headrest tv's along with a crowbar to the 6 disc stereo. Our neighbors Horse trailer was getting packed for a weekend Barrel race extravaganza only to come out and it (the trailer) was on blocks.

I found 35 acres in MT but I am not sold on that much cold. I can handle a harsh winter but my nipples would be pebbles all of the time. That may be cool if the women there don't look like Smokey the Bear. $79,000 check out the pics

[tower]

Bad,

Abilene, TX seems to be a very nice town.

[Badace]

Originally Posted by tower

Bad,

Abilene, TX seems to be a very nice town.

Really. Four Seasons? I know they have a college there. I will have to check them out. I like Texas No Income Tax. Thanks,

[tower]

Originally Posted by Badace

Really. Four Seasons? I know they have a college there. I will have to check them out. I like Texas No Income Tax. Thanks,

I've been there in extreme heat and also snow. It's not like there's a ton of accumulation on the ground, but it does snow. I believe there are 3 colleges there and it's only ~200 miles from where you are now. That being said, I must admit MT pics look beautiful!

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Badace

No. Fort Worth is Awesome to go to for dinner, night life. You are 100% right. Just don't venture off your direct routes because it is pretty bad.

It really is not day to day. It is just trending that way. Going to the grocery store is not what it was even 2 years ago. The hood rats riding bycicles in your neighborhood casing the places because you know they do not live in close vicinity. The mall is just a joke. Best Buy. Circuit City. Our window was busted out a year ago and we lost the headrest tv's along with a crowbar to the 6 disc stereo. Our neighbors Horse trailer was getting packed for a weekend Barrel race extravaganza only to come out and it (the trailer) was on blocks.

I found 35 acres in MT but I am not sold on that much cold. I can handle a harsh winter but my nipples would be pebbles all of the time. That may be cool if the women there don't look like Smokey the Bear. $79,000 check out the pics

Vacation pics?

[Badace]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Vacation pics?

No. It is 35 acres for sale for 79.9K 50 miles outside of Billings. MT

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Badace

No. It is 35 acres for sale for 79.9K 50 miles outside of Billings. MT

For that kind of view, I would put up with a beautiful white winter.

[Badace]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

For that kind of view, I would put up with a beautiful white winter.

BTW Dennis, That is one sweet Avatar. I enjoy the revolving Avatars. Each day it gets better.

[KenP]

PM H2Rocks about the northern states. She knows all about them.

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by Badace

No. It is 35 acres for sale for 79.9K 50 miles outside of Billings. MT

Those views are nice, but they don't even compare to Colorado. Find a place outside of Durango.

[Badace]

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Those views are nice, but they don't even compare to Colorado. Find a place outside of Durango.

I have really looked at Colorado. I was looking in the Southwest CO area. (I came across a town GooeyGaybob may have been interested in; the Sex Change Capital of the world). Colorado is Awesome. Just a little rich for my blood.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by Badace

No. It is 35 acres for sale for 79.9K 50 miles outside of Billings. MT

And half an hour, or more, to buy a six pack. No thanks.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by KenP

And half an hour, or more, to buy a six pack. No thanks.

With a Canadian Beer Fridge, you wouldn't have to as much.

[tower]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

With a Canadian Beer Fridge, you wouldn't have to as much.

So YOU are the one causing all this global warming!

[bparker]

Yes, there is still a part of the "old town" and "community" that still adheres to the "old days" of the "western" way of life that they are struggling hard to hold on to. While I do admire this, I still watch in agony they council members make really bad mistakes in regards to zoning and other city responsibilities that would keep the bad elements out.

Sadly, they haven?t and its been overrun by Mexicans and welfare degenerates that life a lifestyle of hoodlumism and its hurt the city badly. Crime is terrible there; as you may recall a large segment of the "Cops" TV show series was devoted to Ft Worth.

I just wanted to defend the rest of DFW as there are many VERY impressive places to live that are still quite affordable and safe which attract many people that are coming from FL, NY and CA due to the real-estate corrections.

If you get the time, please visit Frisco and Plano. Plano was voted the nicest city in the USA like 5 years in a row to live back in the early 2000s. And Frisco is one of the fastest growing cities in the nation right now.

In any case, GL with where ever you end up but things arent so bad if you will have a look in a few other areas.

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

I'm a little surprised about the Ft. Worth data. I go out to dinner downtown and in several surrounding areas almost every night and I haven't run into a crappy area. I'm not saying they don't exist, but you'd never notice it firsthand. You just read this stuff in the paper. I'm not from here, dont' live here, but I spend a TON of time in Ft. Worth. Almost everyone I work with is from Ft. Worth and they all seem to love it. The do have the chip on their shoulder where they feel they're overshadowed by Dallas. But they all seem to be very proud of their community.

[h2co-pilot]

Ah.... the aftermath of Katrina perpetuates.

[Badace]

Originally Posted by bparker

Yes, there is still a part of the "old town" and "community" that still adheres to the "old days" of the "western" way of life that they are struggling hard to hold on to. While I do admire this, I still watch in agony they council members make really bad mistakes in regards to zoning and other city responsibilities that would keep the bad elements out.

Sadly, they haven?t and its been overrun by Mexicans and welfare degenerates that life a lifestyle of hoodlumism and its hurt the city badly. Crime is terrible there; as you may recall a large segment of the "Cops" TV show series was devoted to Ft Worth.

I just wanted to defend the rest of DFW as there are many VERY impressive places to live that are still quite affordable and safe which attract many people that are coming from FL, NY and CA due to the real-estate corrections.

If you get the time, please visit Frisco and Plano. Plano was voted the nicest city in the USA like 5 years in a row to live back in the early 2000s. And Frisco is one of the fastest growing cities in the nation right now.

In any case, GL with where ever you end up but things arent so bad if you will have a look in a few other areas.

I know. My Heading was out of frustration. I love what it has to offer. I frequent some friends in Prosper, and Argyle. They are awesome. I just wrooy what they will look like in 10 years. It is like the good people move out of the area to get away from the elements and the elements that turn good do the same but they drag their element family and friends with them and before you know it the good people move even farther out. Just a cycle I want to get out of. You are correct. Most of the D/FW area is awesome. My area which was awesome 3 years ago is now getting that element. So I want to plant permanent roots. Thanks for your words. I Love Texas, The Horns, The Boys, The Stars. I just hate the criminals that seem to be moving in more and more every day.

[bparker]

You mention Prosper, and I wanted to say that is a great alternate choice for you in your predicament. I know some of the counsil there and I can say they will NOT allow (for future development) large track home developments in the city. All or most of the the city (new dev) is will large 1+ arce lots.

Not to mention the tollway now dead ends right at the feet Prosper thus you could accomplish the small town lifestyle, safe schools and env and still remain in DFW AND watch your real-estate appreciate a a greater pace as you would be in the direction of positve growth rather than in a declining or stagnant area.

I myself find it would be very hard to leave TX and there are few places I would go if I did. Montana would be one of them or any of the "Rockies" states along with any along the "Appliations" as well (including VA)

Dont make a knee jerk descision, think about your family and consider your options. There are a lot of great choices locally but eveyone wants to feel peace of mind and you cant even begin to put a value on that.

Originally Posted by Badace

I know. My Heading was out of frustration. I love what it has to offer. I frequent some friends in Prosper, and Argyle. They are awesome. I just wrooy what they will look like in 10 years. It is like the good people move out of the area to get away from the elements and the elements that turn good do the same but they drag their element family and friends with them and before you know it the good people move even farther out. Just a cycle I want to get out of. You are correct. Most of the D/FW area is awesome. My area which was awesome 3 years ago is now getting that element. So I want to plant permanent roots. Thanks for your words. I Love Texas, The Horns, The Boys, The Stars. I just hate the criminals that seem to be moving in more and more every day.