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06-26-2008, 03:07 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
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Originally Posted by CONRAD II
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06-26-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
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It appears that the probable reason for this problem is that there were variations in the castings of the the spindle/steering knuckles and or LCA's in certain production runs on the GM assembly line, resulting in the turn limit stops engaging in different relative positions on some H2's. This would also explain why some H2 owners experience significant tire rubbing on the stabilizer bar with stock tires at full left or right steering lock, while some owners don't experience tire rubbing even with 37" tires!
The stock tires on my H2 always rubbed at full lock, go figure...
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06-27-2008, 03:09 AM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP, I will keep this in mind for future install.
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06-30-2008, 02:32 AM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
Thanks for the great info guys! This is unbelievable to me. Any word back from Cognito? I just purchased the Moog stuff and the Support kit (Cognito) to be installed shortly. Now I am concerned to say the least! I bought the support Kit from Norcal, I wonder if they are aware. I hope I can return if it does indeed turn out to be an issue. Glad know one got hurt as this is potentially very serious.
Thanks again, please keep us posted on your progress.
Jeff
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07-09-2008, 06:50 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
My shop that did my install contacted Cognito and they said that there is nothing wrong with there product!!
I will be taking my H2 into the shop on Monday and they will look into fixing the problem front the Steering kit
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07-09-2008, 07:19 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
All I have done so far is what SummitUp recommended..."turn the steering lock to lock and look underneath to see if the turn limit stops are making contact" and mine are NOT making contact, there's about a 1/4" gap at full lock. So, I guess that confirms that I have the same issue. Guess it's back the shop we go.
I've never had any tire rubbing issues, though, even with 37s (except on the fender well).
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07-10-2008, 06:08 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
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My shop that did my install contacted Cognito and they said that there is nothing wrong with there product!!
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Yes, this is the same attitude I'm getting. They're in denial if you ask me.
Here's the thing:
I don't think the potential seriousness of this problem has been fully appreciated by Cognito. If even only a small percentage of H2's have this problem, and if just one of these experiences a steering failure resulting in an accident or injury because of this potential design defect, Cognito will be liable for a major lawsuit. Cognito needs to take this seriously and investigate this. This denial stance they're taking could cost them big time. If the word could only be gotten out on this I know more H2's with this problem would surface. I again urge anyone with the Cognito support arm kit to inspect their ride ASAP!
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I will be taking my H2 into the shop on Monday and they will look into fixing the problem front the Steering kit
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Originally Posted by TXSUT
All I have done so far is what SummitUp recommended..."turn the steering lock to lock and look underneath to see if the turn limit stops are making contact" and mine are NOT making contact, there's about a 1/4" gap at full lock. So, I guess that confirms that I have the same issue. Guess it's back the shop we go.
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Guys, please keep us informed and post your eventual resolutions to this problem.
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07-10-2008, 08:32 PM
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Re: PROBLEM WITH COGNITO PITMAN/IDLER KIT
Question about the "turn limit stop" in a stock application: Do those two surfaces actually touch when at full lock? Only reason I ask, besides being ignorant, is that it seems to me had mine been touching prior to the Cognito kit, it seems like I'd see some wear marks on the mating surfaces. To me, it looks like they have never made contact, no wear marks whatsoever.
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