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Old 07-26-2008, 12:50 AM
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I know the tank is filled to the max because the places I go they keep tapping the handle til the gas spits back out at them. Maybe thats a Jersey thing? I don't know.
This test is going to be one way door to door each time I go direct to and from work and its the first in a series. I will do this for a couple of weeks. The trip odometer will do its thing, the gas station attendant will do his thing and the receipt I get will be demonstrative of my mpg. And while it isnt being scan guaged, it will be accurate enough to tell us if there is obvious gains. Accurate enough for me anyways. I've read here people getting 15-17mpg, and without the additive my first tank got me just 16mpg. My additive is getting me 21mpg minimum to me thats an obvious gain imho. Still I'm game for a challenge so here's an idea, howabout you buy a quart and do the test along side of mine. That way we can test the accuracy of H3s analog equipment and the productivity of the additive at the same time and as a bonus, you get to do all the sciency stuff you like to do!
Also, if you visit the website, they've done all the scientific tests and have the results posted there. That would give you an opportunity to compare your results with their scientific studies. Then you can report back here with your findings as well. That'd be ideal.

If you're not interested in participating thats okay to, but lets keep in mind though that on my end its just a test to see how well the additive works with my H3 and my driving habits. If someone else is more leadfooted, or launches off the line routinely with their H3, I'd expect the results to vary from mine, but I'd still bet they see an overall gain.

I hope you do do it though, its an excellent opportunity. Let us all know. Thanks!

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You may not be aware that this thread is more a continuation of a conversation in another thread where I stated I had made the same trip without the additive and with the needle starting in the same "fill" state and also that my ride to and from work is virtually all flat, all highway with only two small hills in either direction. That trip is where I got the initial 16mpg and it was a normal everyday trip for me travelling at posted speed limits ranging 55mph to 65mph. I travel at off peak hours and dont idle at all in traffic as a result unless of course there is an accident or other emergency causing it. For testing purposes I will not count those trips.

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Old 07-26-2008, 05:50 PM
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OK its 12 noon as I begin to write this and I'm running a little behind schedule with the post because my daughter's French Toast breakfast waits for no one, you eat it hot or not at all.

OK I tried taking pictures of my trip, and was successful until the camera battery died. Then I switched to my blackberry cam and it also was dying. Still I managed by charging it so I could snap a couple pics on arrival at the gas station here at home.

The first 6 pics show my H3 parked in the lot across from my home away from home and the surrounding area including NYC skyline across the river. The lot is about 5 blocks from the firehouse I work at.

After that begins pics of my trip home on the turnpike and parkway south in the morning after work.

Final pics are me stopped for gas. And after I charged the camera battery for a half an hour I went out to my driveway and took pictures of the trip odometer, fill guage and the receipt.

I learned a couple of things along the way. First of all my total trip was 73.3 miles, not quite the 74 that I thought it was. My city driving was closer to 5 miles than 3 miles. And my highway miles were more like 68 miles than 71 miles, as I previously suggested.

The results were as follows:

73.3 total miles

This included a 5 block drive to work and a 5 block drive to my house after topping off.

The top off took a little more than 3 gallons. 3.30 gallons to be exact. Note that the pump clicked off a 2.88 gallons and the attendant squeezed it up to 3.30 gallons. See H, its a Jersey thing!

OK so here's the math:

73.3 miles divided by 3.3 gallons equals 22.21 mpg.

Not quite 25 mpg, but certainly still shows significant gains over what others are reporting. And more than the manufacturer is suggesting is even possible.

Bottom line I'm satisfied the product is working as promised and I'll continue to do the testing to ensure its as accurate as it can be without specialized equipment.

I go back to work on Tuesday so that'll be the next test. And by the by, the trip may yield slightly different mileage as some of the streets are One Way only traffic. But it shouldn't be far off.

In future posts I'll just put up the before and afters. Taking pics while driving aint as easy as it looks.

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I added 001.jpg late because I thought I already added it. Start with it and then go to 002 and then down from there. over all, the pics are boring shots of the road I travel. Of intrest; 005 is a shot from my window showing the World Trade Center site, 006 Empire State Building. 014-approaching the Parkway when camera beeped it was dying. 018-the money shot of the receipt.
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:58 AM
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That's pretty good!!!!!!!
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:26 PM
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Just where do you buy this CA40G and is this what it's called?
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Old 07-28-2008, 09:47 PM
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seems pretty expensive

One quart of CA40g is $32.50
One gallon of Ca40g is $110.00.

This is a fuel additive made by a company called CMH Industries. They originally forumlated it to work in tractors with diesels, but apparently they've found it works in any type of petroleum based fuel, and they are saying they guarantee an increase in fuel economy of 10%.
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Its only around $1.00 per 20 gal fillup...@$4.00 per gal thats $81 vs $80...

Has anyone else tried it yet ?
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It's worth a try. Where do you buy it? On TV

I would like to see longer distance test results. With short distances the calculations can be effected by changes in the ammount of gas used to refill and I am sure teh gas pumps and gas guages aren't 100% accurate.
Mayb use a GPS for distance measurement?

See the difference in just 0.3 gallons used...
73.3 miles divided by 3.3 gallons equals 22.21 mpg. or

73.3 miles divided by 3.0 gallons equals 24.43 mpg

I'll stick to the Vornado and fuel line magnets.
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:59 AM
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You get it online at ca40g.com It can be delivered or you could look and see if there is a local distributor near you.

I agree longer distance tests would be best, maybe I should just report my full round trip results instead?

Whaddya think?

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Next one way test is tomorrow morning. I'll post results, but it may be as late as midnight depending on when I get some down time at work.

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personally, I think you , Jersy, should keep testing and report back after 1000 miles or more. Or after 1 full year of using it.
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Had a friend that loved marvel mystery oil. He used to blend that product. MMO looked like auto trans fluid into his gas at fill up. Claimed it lubed his cylinders and got him better mpg...

Never saw any real data on results...

This sounds interesting ca40g. I would be interested in long term study data.

If farmers use it thats usually a good testimony.

Farmers are always a tough sell.
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Old 07-29-2008, 08:21 PM
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personally, I think you , Jersy, should keep testing and report back after 1000 miles or more. Or after 1 full year of using it.

I've have been using it for more than a year. It's my H3 that's new, not the product. In my minivans I always used it and it always delivered.

I've logged thousands of miles with it. I'm reporting now how well its improved the mileage in my H3.

I've used it, I'm using, I'll continue to use it, and I'll recommend it as well.

I'm glad to post the mileage for all to see; I hope all of you find the information useful.

Todays mileage was equally impressive, I'll post later when I can use my laptop.
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