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Old 02-05-2009, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: fabtech tie rods

You have to purchase a sway bar extension from what I read on the ebay auctions. It tends to have a possibility to rub on the sway bar.
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Wink Re: fabtech tie rods

I have the fab tech tie rods with the ready lift kit which is the same as the truxx kit and the green key kit and they work fine.
i do not have a swar bar extension and i have had zero problems for 2 years 4 months.
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Default Re: fabtech tie rods

Fabtech states this because there is risk under a binded steering position, that the large inner tie rod joint can bind against the sway bar. When there is stress on the centerlink, the curved ends tend to cause the centerlink to twist upward due to geometry of this curve in the centerlink. To control this "twisting of the centerlink" (which also causes premature wear of the pitman/idler arms, I might add) the Cognito Pitman/Idler support kit is highly recommended. This Cognito kit will actually keep stock tie rods from breaking so easy due to the nature of it controlling the centerlink from twisting - which in turn keeps the tie rods from getting into a binded position. I suggest this kit even before upgrading to HD tie rods!

Once you have both kits (HD tie rods and Cognito P/I arm kit), the next best thing to do is to get the Cognito OEM length sway bar end links. They are called OEM length, but are 1" taller then the OEM links, which allows more clearance between the HD tie rods' inner joint and sway bar.

The other good thing about their end links is they incorporate a swivel link for the lower control arm. This is perfect for those with the Truxx kit or any other scenario of cranked torsion bars. When you crank the TBs with any of the methods out there, the lower control arms are now at a more severe angle and the sway bar link geometry is now "off". This swivel corrects the geometry to compensate for the cranked up torsion bars. They are also better quality and more HD than the OEM links. Very good mod for the price!
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Default Re: fabtech tie rods

The reason Fabtech won't endorse their tie rods for H2's is because the inner rubber boot will only clear the sway bar by about 1/8 inch in a full lock turn. The boot can actually be torn when turning hard while off-roading. Dozens of H2 owners run Fabtech's with no problems however.

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The cure for this situation is to replace the sway bar links with Cognito sway bar links. They're longer than OEM and will give about 3/4" clearance:


Interesting thread on Fabtech vs. Cognito tie rods <Here>.
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Dang it Tom! You beat me to it!
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Well i awake to find amazings detailed replies ,you guys fail to amaze me thnks for all your help and input ,

Now the big question can you recomend who what and where i can buy these parts ,,the issue i have as many other european memebers have nobody wants our money

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Dang it Tom! You beat me to it!

Finally...LOL. You beat me on most all the rest of them!
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Finally...LOL. You beat me on most all the rest of them!
Hardly! I think you wrote the book on most of this stuff!

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Well i awake to find amazings detailed replies ,you guys fail to amaze me thnks for all your help and input ...
We fail to amaze you!? Man, what does it take to amaze you!?

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Now the big question can you recomend who what and where i can buy these parts ,,the issue i have as many other european memebers have nobody wants our money
I would contact Phil at trailduty.com. He's a moderator at w-w-w-.h-u-m-m-e-r-x-c-l-u-b-.c-o-m (take out the dashes), he's from the UK and I think he would help you out. If your a member over there, you could PM him directly, or just call the phone number on the Trailduty website and ask for Phil. Tell 'em SummitUp sent you!
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yeep sounds good i have sent a email
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Hardly! I think you wrote the book on most of this stuff!


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I would contact Phil at trailduty.com. He's a moderator at w-w-w-.h-u-m-m-e-r-x-c-l-u-b-.c-o-m (take out the dashes), he's from the UK and I think he would help you out. If your a member over there, you could PM him directly, or just call the phone number on the Trailduty website and ask for Phil. Tell 'em SummitUp sent you!


sent a couple of emails to this guy but no responce ,,look if you are in touch with this guy please pass on my details ,,as i wish to place a order thanks

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