Question for Computer Gurus

[HummerNewbie]

Got a question for you computer gurus out there. I had XP Pro crash on me and it would constantly reboot during startup. I decided it was time for a new hard drive anyway so installed new drive and XP Pro. I can access the old drive but it will not allow me to copy my old info. If I go into Documents and Settings on the old drive it will not allow me to access the "Admin" folder which was my username on the computer but will allow me to go into the other folders. I did use a password and had set the folders up to be private and I am using the same settings on the new XP install. I also tried coping everything using "Knoppix" which is basic Linux on a bootable disc. It allows me to go into the folder and view the files I want to move to the new hard drive but will not allow me to move them. Any recommendations?

[HummerNewbie]

Got a question for you computer gurus out there. I had XP Pro crash on me and it would constantly reboot during startup. I decided it was time for a new hard drive anyway so installed new drive and XP Pro. I can access the old drive but it will not allow me to copy my old info. If I go into Documents and Settings on the old drive it will not allow me to access the "Admin" folder which was my username on the computer but will allow me to go into the other folders. I did use a password and had set the folders up to be private and I am using the same settings on the new XP install. I also tried coping everything using "Knoppix" which is basic Linux on a bootable disc. It allows me to go into the folder and view the files I want to move to the new hard drive but will not allow me to move them. Any recommendations?

[bparker]

Make sure you are logged in as an Administrator or equalivent to do this.

when you are browsing to the old "admin" folder right click on it and click "properties" and then go to the "security" tab.

Then click "advanced" - then click the "Owner" tab. Now check the box at the bottom to replace the owner of that object then click "apply" and it will give you access to that object.

[HummerNewbie]

Thanks for the input.

I will have to double check when I get home but believe I was logged in as Administrator. I also believe I checked the "Advanced" properties last night and didn't see the "Owner" tab but will check this tonight as well.

Thanks

[bparker]

It looks like this...

[CO Hummer]

Newb,
I'd wait on doing ANYTHING until KenP is available to provide technical advise.

[bparker]

LOL

[alldunn]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
Newb,
I'd wait on doing ANYTHING until KenP is available to provide technical advise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO!!

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
Newb,
I'd wait on doing ANYTHING until KenP is available to provide technical advise. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL...KEN...Help...Ken?

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by bparker:
Make sure you are logged in as an Administrator or equalivent to do this.

when you are browsing to the old "admin" folder right click on it and click "properties" and then go to the "security" tab.

Then click "advanced" - then click the "Owner" tab. Now check the box at the bottom to replace the owner of that object then click "apply" and it will give you access to that object. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, just tried what you said bparker and do not get a Security tab so I don't get the Owner tab under Advanced either. I was able to share the "Admin" folder though so I can now access that but can not share any of the other folders. Below is the error message I get when I try to access any of the other folders or share them. Any ideas anyone?

[bparker]

Yea that is because you are using a fat32 partitiion and not ntfs. sorry but I only work with servers so I never use fat32. I know some do use fat32 on thier servers but i never have.

you could convert the partition to ntfs and then you will have that option but without it i am not sure.

the difference between the two is:

with a fat32 partition you gain speed but you cant set security permissions down to the file level but only on folders.

with ntfs you loose a little speed due to the security overhead (which is faractions of secs) but you can set permissions per file as apposed to the folder level.

if you choose to convert - i think the command is (off the top of my head but you can google it if I am wrong) is at a command promt type
convert c: ntfs and it will be done on your next reboot

[HummerNewbie]

Unfortunately even when trying to boot in safe mode it gets part way through the boot process and restarts the system.

I am 99.9% sure that both drives are NTFS format but I do not get the Security tab under properties for either drive. I do get General, Tools, Hardware, Sharing and Quota.

I am going to play with it some more. At least I made it one level deeper. If anyone else has any suggestions I am open.

Thanks

[bparker]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
I am 99.9% sure that both drives are NTFS format but I do not get the Security tab under properties for either drive. I do get General, Tools, Hardware, Sharing and Quota. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

wow thats really strange, as you should have it if you are using an ntfs volume. now that I am not working I will do some digging

[h2co-pilot]

Alec + bparker= Nerd Fest 2K6

Nerds < fly poop < dog poop < all

[bparker]

oone other thing that comes to mind but I cant recall the syntax but I have used it in the past.

open a dos/command prompt and start using the "net use /?" command and try to use the net use syntax options to set some new permissions for that folder. dos is limited somewhat and will sometimes bypass "windows" some features and may get you in.

if not - then see if you have a buddy that is running windows 2003 server and put the hard drive in that machine (as a slave) and then you for sure will have the ability to revoke the permissions. Set them to "everyone" so when you put it back in your machine you can access the folder. I know this isnt an attractive method but its what I would do if i were out of options... =)

[HummerNewbie]

Thanks for all the input, I will try those too. I believe a friend of mine has an unused copy or Server that I can setup on a machine. Wouldn't be bad to have around anyway.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Alec + bparker= Nerd Fest 2K6

Nerds < fly poop < dog poop < all </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL CP

Among the people I know, I am usually the computer geek

[bparker]

another thought: when you put that drive in to boot from: have you tried to boot from the XP cd and do a repair installation? Also, have you tried pressing F8 and choose "last known good" configuration? I am sure you have but just checing the obvious.