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Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 11:33 AM
I noticed it when we stopped for gas yesterday, but didn't pay much attention.

The vehicle comes to a halt in tight turns. The tighter the turn, the more resistence I'm getting. It feels pretty weird but doesn't seem to be interfering with the vehicle too much.

Any ideas?

Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 01:55 PM
Good question. I think it's worse to turn left than right.

Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 02:58 PM
They do appear normal and the truck seems to drive okay when going straight or making slight turns. It only occurs when I am turning tight.

Figure it's okay to drive until it breaks?

PARAGON
04-24-2006, 03:10 PM
I'm betting it's the CV. It's "tightening" up for some reason when you turn tight. Take a quick look at the boots and see if you have any tears. You might have torn one on something and over time water/dirt/grit contaminated it. Or it could just be the bearings going out.

Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 06:19 PM
The boots on the CVs look okay and the sway bar is defintely in place.

NoMoGMPG
04-24-2006, 06:46 PM
Definately a CV joint issue, if you're out of warranty, take it off and have it rebuilt at a drive train specialist for under $100. It is probably contaminated grease causing the balls to stay in the grooves of the cage.

Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 06:53 PM
The warranty will cover it, I'm sure. I will try to get it in to the shop tomorrow.

Planohummer
04-24-2006, 08:44 PM
Tire pressures good? Not in 4Hi lock?

Adam in CO
04-24-2006, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Planohummer:
Tire pressures good? Not in 4Hi lock?

Checked and checked.

dochummer
04-24-2006, 10:55 PM
Don't forget your alignment... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

KenP
04-25-2006, 02:23 AM
Adam, you were really struggling to turn your truck while in Moab. Much more than we were when we were aired down.

Get that thing fixed, buddy.

Adam in CO
04-25-2006, 01:47 PM
In the shop now.

Adam in CO
04-25-2006, 03:24 PM
So, they're telling me the truck is locked in 4 Hi. ???

PARAGON
04-25-2006, 05:30 PM
I was somewhat under the impression that there was virtually no way that it would show one mode and be in another. That it was 2 different systems that control/monitor.

Adam in CO
04-25-2006, 06:16 PM
It was NOT showing locked. It was defintely showing 4 Hi Open. I would have noticed that.

PARAGON
04-25-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Adam in CO:
It was NOT showing locked. It was defintely showing 4 Hi Open. I would have noticed that. Surrre! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I don't know. When I was going over the stuff for Ken, there was something about the indicators and the actuator not being tied together or something along those lines.

My question would be how do they know it's in 4HI locked w/o the indicator unless they looked in the T-case or something.

Hummie2
04-25-2006, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by PARAGON:
I was somewhat under the impression that there was virtually no way that it would show one mode and be in another. That it was 2 different systems that control/monitor.

Broken shift fork. The motor turns the shifter cam back to 4high open and the encoder shows 4high open, but the t-case remains in 4lock because the shiftfork broke when shifting out of 4lock.

PARAGON
04-25-2006, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Hummie2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I was somewhat under the impression that there was virtually no way that it would show one mode and be in another. That it was 2 different systems that control/monitor.

Broken shift fork. The motor turns the shifter cam back to 4high open and the encoder shows 4high open, but the t-case remains in 4lock because the shiftfork broke when shifting out of 4lock. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ahhhh! That makes total sense!

ree
04-25-2006, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by PARAGON:
My question would be how do they know it's in 4HI locked w/o the indicator unless they looked in the T-case or something.
You'd think you could speculate that it's binding by turning on dry pavement and feeling binding and tire skip. You wouldn't know the tcase is locked, but if you've driven on pavement in 4-hi-lock, it's pretty obvious what's happening.

But Adam says he thinks it's worse to the left which is inconsistent with a locked tcase. But then again, he said "I think it's worse to turn left than right."

NoMoGMPG
04-25-2006, 07:01 PM
Adam,

Are you breaking your truck again? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Adam in CO
04-25-2006, 07:24 PM
Wow. This is WAY better than Medved. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

h2co-pilot
04-25-2006, 08:00 PM
Adam, I got your message yesterday but I got home late last night. The steering did not seem very weird to me after we figured it was gone. If anything the PS wheel (the good one) was more leniant turning right and seemed tighter on the left- but then again, I never really made any severe turns toward the left after that or drove it on the pavement- Ken might know what it felt like.

What are they saying now? Did they check the actuator? When our tcase was locked in 4lo it still indicated the correct mode- even when turned manually it indicated the correct mode.

mircea
04-27-2006, 05:35 AM
Hi,
I have to replace my P/S pump but there is no Hummer dealer in Romania.Can somebody help me with an address in US?

Ernie Italy
04-27-2006, 07:38 AM
Is easy to contact Hummer in Italy....
service@hummeritaly.com and talk with Christian

ree
04-27-2006, 10:28 AM
Adam, Any verdict?

KenP
04-27-2006, 06:37 PM
Adam, did they try this:

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/6706011751/m/8281081971

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Adam in CO
05-01-2006, 08:25 PM
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time.

PARAGON
05-01-2006, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Adam in CO:
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time. Must have taken it in to Medved

Adam in CO
05-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time. Must have taken it in to Medved </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are the number 1 Hummer dealer and service center in Denver.

PARAGON
05-01-2006, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by Adam in CO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time. Must have taken it in to Medved </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are the number 1 Hummer dealer and service center in Denver. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>so I don't hear

timgco
05-02-2006, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time. Must have taken it in to Medved </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are the number 1 Hummer dealer and service center in Denver. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>so I don't hear </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


LMFAO! They are the only HUMMER dealer and service center in Denver.

PARAGON
05-02-2006, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by timgco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
A full week now, and still no Hummer. I think I could have fixed the tcase in that amount of time. Must have taken it in to Medved </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

They are the number 1 Hummer dealer and service center in Denver. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>so I don't hear </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


LMFAO! They are the only HUMMER dealer and service center in Denver. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>and, from what I hear, they still are not #1

HUMTECH
05-03-2006, 01:43 AM
Fixed A few of these with the same issue, broken range shift fork. Takes about 20 min. to remove t-case. 10 min coffee break. 15 min to disassemble and find broken parts. 1/2 hr to order parts, all parts in stock except(inset part# here) which is A week away. part arrives 1 weel later and assembled in 1 hour. intalled in truck in 1/2 hour, roadtested and parked in lot. Notice that it's usually parts availability that takes so much time for repairs and the dealer and tech will do just about anything to get the parts as quick as they can as they dont get paid until the job is done, very frustrating as A tech as well as for the customer. Hope ya get your truck back soon, and so does your dealer but there hands are tied when it comes to getting parts.

Adam in CO
05-03-2006, 07:37 PM
Sucks. Still no parts.

KenP
05-04-2006, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Adam in CO:
Sucks. Still no parts. Have they ordered any?

Adam in CO
05-04-2006, 02:32 PM
Beats me. Still nothing today either.

timgco
05-04-2006, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Adam in CO:
Beats me. Still nothing today either.

MEDVED IS THE BEST! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

HumMike
05-22-2006, 02:37 AM
My 2004 H2 has been having problems with intermittant High Open indicator, and Binding front end Occasionally, The dealer said no trouble found at 32,000 mi. and again at 35,000 mi. Then at 38,800 mi. after the Factory warranty had expired they found a broken shift fork and coller in the T-case, and they repaired it for over a $1100.00 Then at 40,000+ mi. They found that the pump in the T-case was dry and the planetary gear was fried, After they were the ones that had REPAIRED the T-case, and I paid them about $800 for new synthetic fluids in both Difs and the T-case (the 40,000 mi. service) now they will probably have to replace the T-case Thankfully I paid for the extended warranty

PARAGON
05-22-2006, 02:52 AM
Maybe someone more intelligent can reply and explain, but I don't believe the T-case has a "pump"