Lemon Law: H3 is the most unreliable car I've ever owned!

[skinner]

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part :rolleyes: The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs :eek: Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation ;) The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood :D

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.

[KenP]

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part :rolleyes: The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs :eek: Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation ;) The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood :D

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.Since this is the same engine that's in the Colorado, why don't those guys have the same problem?

Thanks for posting this crap as your first, and hopefully only, post.:rolleyes:

[HIHUMMER]

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU. You're gonna post THAT as your first post!? Why even join the forum if you're getting rid of it?:rolleyes:

If anyone here has a right to bitch about their H3..I think I would qualify. However, even w/ as many problems I've had with the H3, I'll still own one. Weather it's mine or a another one. It's still a bad ass truck..so get rid of your POS and buy an FJ....the KY cruiser seems like it would suit you better anyway.:rolleyes:

[Hummer Guy]

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a troll

[DRTYFN]

Blahblahblahwhinewhinepiss&moanblahblah

Sounds like a dealer related issue.

[Ipedog]

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU. You're gonna post THAT as your first post!? Why even join the forum if you're getting rid of it?:rolleyes:

If anyone here has a right to bitch about their H3..I think I would qualify. However, even w/ as many problems I've had with the H3, I'll still own one. Weather it's mine or a another one. It's still a bad ass truck..so get rid of your POS and buy an FJ....the KY cruiser seems like it would suit you better anyway.:rolleyes:

The girl has it right skinner. What are you doing here? I'm sorry to hear that you've had a bad time with your H3 but if you expected people to commiserate with you about this... well... it ain't gonna happen here. Goodby little skinner, enjoy your YupTerra.

[skinner]

Damn...don't take it personally. I was posting this message to address a problem...not to start a like/dislike war. If there are people out there with the same issue this may be useful to them. And honestly I have no idea why the Colorado owners dont have the same problem, but the fact remains that it is the same motor. It could be the combination of small motor, heavy truck, and all-time AWD. But this is not the purpose of this post. A new vehicle should not have these problems...period. I agree, the H3 is an awesome "mid-size SUV" (but by no means a badass "truck"). It has awesome offroad ability...when it works. But we can all agree that is underpowered.

[HIHUMMER]

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a stupid fuking moron dumbass idiot


Fixed. :D

[skinner]

wonder if he even owns an H3...sounds like a troll

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

[HIHUMMER]

Okay...so you want to "help" people that might be having the same problems...fine. But you DEFINATELY didn't come across that way in your first post. You sounded like the typical troll who wants to bitch and whine about Hummers.

Yes...the H3 IS underpowed..but did you not notice that when you test drove it? Why DID you buy it the first place?

[Ipedog]

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

Well, in a sense you did. Had you come to us when your truck started having issues perhaps we could have helped. There are many experts and GM insiders here. Instead you came and told us how things had been bad and that you were leaving:
As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6.
So, basically your post was inflamatory and unnecessary. Which brings the question: why did you post it, knowing that you were jumping ship?

Perhaps if you were saying that things had been rough but GM was giving you a new truck...

Enjoy the YupTerra. Good Luck.

[skinner]

I bought it cuz the pros outweighed the cons. I was willing to deal with the sluggishness. I loved the ride, look, and suspension. Plus, this was for my wife...and she loved it. It just frustrates the hell out of me when dealers keep giving me the run around. $30k on a car and this shouldn't happen. The reason I made the Xterra analogy is because they are more reliable cars. The H3 is absolutely SUPERIOR offroad...but this is primarily a daily driver. And I'm to the point now where dealership visits are almost a monthly occurance.

[skinner]

If GM really does "FIX" the problem....and I mean a real fix, as in never happening again, then we will keep the H3. But so far it has been "fixed" 3 times! I just want something reliable...thats all.

[HIHUMMER]

Ok..fair enough. But you, like me, sound like you got a "jinxed" truck. Look how many H3 owners ARE NOT having issues with theirs. You say that you like everything about the truck...and you were willing to deal w/ the sluggishness...why not just get another one? There are always kinks to work with new market vehicles....just how it goes.

PS: what was YOUR build date? If you want to help...you really should let everyone know this as well.

[Ipedog]

Is GM willing to give you a NEW H3 to replace your current truck? If they offered to would you be willing to give it another try? If the answer is YES to both then lets talk. If the answers are YES and then NO... well, what do you honestly expect?

[Desert Dan]

If I had your experience I would do the lemon law claim and have GM take the H3 back if they would.

I think your problem is with the dealer. Is there any way to get a whole new long block engine (block, crank, rods head etc) from GM not a dealer fix?

[skinner]

I haven't heard back from GM, but according to CA Lemon Law I am entitled to a new vehicle, or a complete refund minus "usage fees." Since there is only 10k miles on the truck this amounts to 5% of the purchase price. Of course I wish none of this ever happened. Maybe this is a "jinxed truck"...but I have heard other people with the same problem. I am unsure of the build date, but the truck was purchased back in October. As I mentioned before I would be willing to stick with the H3 if I was Guaranteed, by GM, that this problem was solved. A guarantee from a dealer means nothing.

[HIHUMMER]

Skinner....Check your PM's.

[Desert Dan]

Maybe you can get a 2007 model with the 3.7L engine :)

[skinner]

If I had your experience I would do the lemon law claim and have GM take the H3 back if they would.

I think your problem is with the dealer. Is there any way to get a whole new long block engine (block, crank, rods head etc) from GM not a dealer fix?



Would all three dealerships be getting parts from the same place? As I mentioned before I was skeptical of the first dealer...so its been taken to different ones. Hopefully #3 knows what they're doing.

[Ipedog]

Would all three dealerships be getting parts from the same place? As I mentioned before I was skeptical of the first dealer...so its been taken to different ones. Hopefully #3 knows what they're doing.

Its probable that the parts are coming from the same distribution center, provided the dealers fall into the same distribution region. I imagine that its more the dealer than the parts.

[DWPC]

We're sensitive because we want GM to succeed with the H3 and a gripe posted here gets magnified way out of proportion by people considering buying one. Actually, there are surprisingly few significant H3 problems reported here, especially considering its the H3's first model year.

I agree with the poster that said you have an (unintended) dealer service problem; three head rebuilds says they're trying hard to make you happy. Clearly your underlying problem has been grossly misdiagnosed. Sounds like they keeps fixing the symptoms but hasn't found the cause. They need to find a solid Vortec engine specialist.

Does your service dept. have any GM truck engine experience? My dealer sells Hummer and Cadillac...they had zero experience with the H3 engine.

But face it, your headline IS true troll bait. You can find similar horror stories on the forums for virtually any make.

[Desert Dan]

Demand a new engine not a dealer's rebuilt one

[HummerHippy]

Holy Cow! What a lovely way to introduce yourself!:eek:

[HIHUMMER]

Ok ok...Skinner....you fooked up. Pledge your allegiance to the T&A and all will be forgiven and you may start anew. ;) :p

[usetosellhummer]

Hummer Div should send in a master tech to fix it if the dealer cannot. get a line on the area service person outside the dealer. Do your homework and get on the phone. oh and quit whineeeeeeee ing

waaaaa waaaaaaa

[HummerNewbie]

It's all be said before but I think...

1. you started out all wrong here, lesson learned I hope.
2. Your repairs are the problem, not the whole engine H3 combo
3. You may have a jinxed truck since this is not a common problem.

[Steve - SanJose]

Interesting, I would like to know what's been replaced/fixed so far.

S.

[lance-n]

i have 8500 miles on mine and am over 1000 miles from the nearest dealer, so I was really nervous when i brought my h3 home last year and have been pleasantly reassured ever since! fortunately, i have not had any engine related issues at all. (knock on wood or errrr plastic)
at our project here, we have a handful of the chevy colorado trucks with the same engine as the h3 and they have also proven to be extremely reliable.
sounds to me like you just got a jinxed vehicle. it's not your fault, but it isnt our fault either. take em to court, get your money. go buy whatever you want. as nice as the xterras are, they are still xterras. if it was me, i would buy another h3. :)

[lance-n]

Forgot one other comment:
What I have experienced and gained through other people's experience is that the H3 is way way above and beyond expectations on first year vehicles. The biggest proof is that they sell like crazy and the 2007's have very minor changes from the 2006's - except for the X bling thing!

[Agriv8r]

Holy Cow! What a lovely way to introduce yourself!:eek:

x2:eek: :eek:

[deserth3]

Three heads and they haven't dropped a new engine in? I'd have to say something is defective on the block side. But I'm no expert.
As agravated as you are with this take it up a level.

[Aubs]

WAH! ...WAH!

I'd be pissed too, however the logical solution, as mentioned, is to be calm, friendly, and supportive of the H3. Coming in here loaded and angry (remember, merlot and elcova don't mix) is not really a good way to get this problem solved faster. I bet you're going to spend a while on the Lemon Law, and reject an offer on a new H3 in bold ignorance, and just wind up out $10K and with no friends. Consider your options carefully...

[HummBebe]

How could you be out 10K???

Why would you have to pay for anything???:confused:

[Michael1]

Oh, please! Who wouldn't be pissed off after having their H3 in the dealer for three head jobs in one year? Every one of you would be cussing up one side and down the other on this forum.

After the first head job, GM should have given this person a new engine, a late model one that had been run in at the plant. GM knows they had head problems on the early engines. Didn't they have bunch of soft valve guides?

Skinner, you may want to rethink your Xterra decision. That has got to be one of the worst riding trucks on the planet. It found bumps you couldn't even see. I couldn't wait to get out. Plus it is a bit of a high school kid's car anyway. Also in an offroad test I read, it couldn't make it up the hill climb, while the other 4x4s could. The suspension was so stiff, there was no articulation, and it couldn't get traction.

If I were you, I would negotiate a nice new shiny H3, a 2007, with the 3.7L. Car makers always have a lot of bugs worked out by the second year. Twist their arm to give it to you at no cost.

Michael

[evldave]

...Who wouldn't be pissed off after having their H3 in the dealer for three head jobs in one year?

There's a joke in here somewhere, but I'm too drunk to think of it right now...

[lotus4s]

There's a joke in here somewhere, but I'm too drunk to think of it right now...

Hell, I'd be ecstatic if I got 3 headjobs in one year..........:D
23 yrs of marriage will do that to a guy.

[Steve - SanJose]

Uh I think that's another type of job...

[mudderducker]

I'm also drunk and smell a troll. indicated by the stupid effin reference to how great an Xterra is. I really think his dad should yank his three hour internet privilege so he could finish his homework. the world has enough idiots.

[Steve - SanJose]

headjobs, blxxjobs, snowjobs.... If only we could get to the facts here, assuming there are some.

S.

[Hmmm2]

Skinner, what part of California are you in?

[Hummer23]

The H3 is the best truck I have ever had. I love driving it. I think the original poster is the extreme exception to have eng trouble. My truck has performed flawlessly. It is a joy to drive. Actually I was concerned about the power before I bought, but I have found it to be fine. It is not a dragster, but i really dont see a huge difference between the H3 and my wifes 2004 explorer. And besides my last fill up was 20.3 gallons and I got 384 miles, yea 19mpg.

[Huck BB62]

I flog the krap out of it. I have to, we live in the mountains and I pass people every day, they won't pull over. I mean I REALLY flog it. I drive 45 miles each way and going home is all uphill. I'm used to a lot of power on the other vehicles we have so I don't like taking an extra ten minutes to get home. It's constantly in third gear way up in the RPMs. The only problem we've had is a code flashing Serv 4WD. It's the wiring for the rear locker and our Hummer dealer is fantastic. Hell, anytime you get a Cadillac STS for a loaner, it's a pretty cool deal (great car by the way but it's still a CAR)

My way of thinking is that the engine's a pretty good one. I've never whooped up on an engine so hard. I feed it synthetic oil to keep it happy, everything else considered I'd expect that if anyone here's engine would fail on them, it'd be ours.

Yeah, there's a few things I'd change on the Hummer but calling it a POS is not what I've found to be true.

About getting an XTerra, go side hill it for us all, take lots of pictures of the roll over.

[NEOCON1]

x2 i romp on mine pretty hard too , and would not call it the biggest POS either :D mine has been a good lil truck and have over 16k now :cool:

[f5fstop]

If GM really does "FIX" the problem....and I mean a real fix, as in never happening again, then we will keep the H3. But so far it has been "fixed" 3 times! I just want something reliable...thats all.

Dude, GM has fixed the issue back in March. That is why for a while heads were hard to find.
If all three of your engine rebuilds were due to the intake valves then the dealer kept installing pre-revised cylinder heads. If the second and third problems were due to other issues, then it was the dealer who screwed up during the rebuild.
There was another person on here that complained the same. First problem was GM's issue with the intake valve guides. The next problems such as the camshaft sprocket falling off, were the fault of the dealer.
GM did fix the issue with the cylinder heads, and the new heads will last hundreds of thousands of miles; if intalled correctly.
So, stop with the BS of GM can't fix the problem. If you have so much trouble with the "vehicle," sell it.
I would be curious as to how many miles between cylinder head problems, because the wear issue with the intake valve guides takes a few K to start, if they are going to start wearing that is.
But in my opinion, coming on here and blasting GM when you weren't here before makes me see a "troll." I may be wrong, but your first post is pure of BS in regard GM not repairing the problem.
Oh, and should I say, the warranty numbers are not that high, I'm from MI, currently in Moab, and so far, with 11K, no cylinder head problems. (And yes, a very small number of Colorado/Canyons are feeling the same pain, but naturally, with much smaller numbers.)
I have to head back to the red rocks and sand.

[BABHUMV]

I have to head back to the red rocks and sand.
:mad: I'm jealous.

[Aubs]

How could you be out 10K???

Why would you have to pay for anything???:confused:

Well, if you have any legal fees, and for the depreciation aspect. I don't think Lemon Law claims go as smooth as it seems. But I don't know. It can't be free.:rolleyes:

[DRTYFN]

Oh my God you guys are defensive! Yes I'm an H3 owner. Yes this was my first post. Yes I am pissed my H3 keeps breaking. No this is not a dealer related issue (its been to 3 different ones because I thought the same thing). You guys sound like I insulted one of your children...lol

OMG!!! isn't this your 2nd time in here? First you came in as connorgleason and started off by posting the H2 tierod video and talking sh*t. What did you expect?

[lotus4s]

OMG!!! isn't this your 2nd time in here? First you came in as connorgleason and started off by posting the H2 tierod video and talking sh*t. What did you expect?


Things a little slow tonight DRTY? :jump:

[DRTYFN]

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part :rolleyes: The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."

Since we bought the car in November we have had to replace the valves and head....THREE TIMES!! Over $10k in repairs :eek: Apparantly there is no solution for this problem...only temporary fixes. I would love to believe the lovely people at the dealer, but I'll leave it up to the courts to decide that.

A message to GM. Quit cutting corners. You had everything right in this vehicle...until you decided to put an underpowered Colorado pickup truck motor in it. Do some research...find some innovative technologies...try to at least compete with the foreign markets. It's no wonder GM is billions in debt. They are too concerned with rushing things to market that their reliability is seriously lacking. We know you have the ability to make great vehicles (Corvette C6 Z06).

As for me, GM is paying me back for this POS and I'm going to the Nissan dealer to buy an Xterra with a big beefy V6. Then I'll take the extra money and maybe go on a vacation ;) The ONLY way I will come back to the H3 is if a small, lightweight turbo-diesel motor finds its way under the hood :D

If anyone else is experiencing the same problems as me, please be VERY skeptical of what the dealer tells you. After the second failure the dealer claimed it was a different problem. They "adjusted the spark plugs" and I was on my way. Took it to a DIFFERENT dealer the next day and sure enough...the valves were bad, there was a compression leak, and the head had to be replaced. The first dealer increased the idle revs to cover up the problem.


Weird. You've got a different story on this other site:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/showthread.php?t=2145

A buddy of mine just installed an MP3 stereo system from a company called Audio Retro. This thing is pretty cool...it allows you to play over 200 digital songs and you can keep your AM radio. You can even take your music with you when you leave your car and use it as a portable device.

Anyway, I'm a broke college student so I was absolutely thrilled when I saw that they were offering FREE items just for submitting a photo. The only thing is that they require a minimum of 50 entries before they give out their 3 prizes

So...I would appreciate it if you guys could spread the word

www.audioretro.com


:OWNED:

[DRTYFN]

Looks like you're quite the little flooder over there. Try it here an your info gets posted. Amazing what can be found.:shhh:
http://www.musclecarclub.com/boards/search.php?searchid=91253

[DRTYFN]

I love everything about the H3....except the motor! Unfortunately the motor is a pretty important part :rolleyes: The long and short of this story is that I am filing a complaint with GM under CA state "Lemon Law."



Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

[Brian H]

And at 3 head jobs totaling $10,000, dude, you need to find a different street corner. :twak:

[H3.007]

Underpowered? As compared to what? I had an 95 Explorer Sport with a 4.0 V6 that I traded for the H3. The Explorer might have been a bit quicker on the highway, but only a bit. Honestly, I really doubt I could tell the difference if I could drive the two back to back now. I know some doubt the benefits of the K&N aircharger but I do feel it helps the engine breath, assisting in countering any highway speed issues. It also seems to be assisted by lower viscosity synthetics that are designed to reduce friction and heat . In fact, when the H3 engine kicks in at high RPMs, I make sure I am hanging on because it "goes".

This whole horespower issue also is discredited by comparing the HP numbers of the Explorer vs. H3. And there is so much more torq...

Albeit one example of qualitative results as compared to quantitatie, dyno-type results, I have to say that this H3 set up is probably the most optimal. But again, that is my humble opinion.

It isn't a Mustang or for fair comparison's sake, a GM Cyclone, but it is a very, very good all around vehicle. For me, if I want wicked speed, I'll go home and pull the Probe GT out of the garage.

And I can agree with the statement on side-hilling the Xterra or even the Explorers (latter from experience) - keep in mind the horsepower issues
when you are barrel-rolling down those inclines :jump:

Oh yeah - and good luck with the Lemon Law - from experience, it is a joke.

[jp's-h3]

NISSAN MORE RELIABLE!
THAT'S A CROCK OF SH** !
JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE FEW THAT BOUGHT A LEMON DOES NOT HOLD SH** AGAINST THE H3'S RELIABILITY!
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NISSAN'S THAT HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS. SO HOW RELIABLE ARE THEY?
:twak:

[fourfourto]

NISSAN MORE RELIABLE!
THAT'S A CROCK OF SH** !
JUST BECAUSE YOU WHERE ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE FEW THAT BOUGHT A LEMON DOES NOT HOLD SH** AGAINST THE H3'S RELIABILITY!
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD NISSAN'S THAT HAVE HAD MANY PROBLEMS. SO HOW RELIABLE ARE THEY?
:twak:


:rant: :iagree: I had a 2004 murano for 2 years 20,000 miles.
The sunroof leaked and was replaced,the alternator was replaced, then the battery.Also had a problem with the headlights not sure how the fixed it.
It did have plenty of power on the road though.
On the beach when it dough in (by the way the H3 has never came close to diging in)the variable speed trans made a burning smell and felt like it lost all power(slipped),that happened a few times.I dont beleve the trans was going to last that long I got rid of it before the warranty expired.

[NM H3]

Why file in California? You live in New Mexico.

Figures, New Mexico -- What a bunch of idiots!

[usetosellhummer]

go wash your puss, I had the colarado before the H3, lots of luck with that xterra

[Hummer3]

quote "Anyway, I'm a broke college student ":violin:



This quy is broke because he's been in college for 9 years and still a freshman.:giggling:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

BOY U dickheads are rough on the guy. Where U read an AH, I see a guy with a legit complaint. Hes maybe not the best with composition of sentences about his complaint but hes nowhere near being a plant or setup.

I own 2 H-3's and yes there are compaints

AND

we all push the limit sometimes with OUR bantering and BS'ing

BUT

WE, ALL of us have to STOP beating up on people who disagree with us.

NOW,

As I read it he is taking the right action for his state

AND

I believe his dealers have aggrevated the situation..

Now thats my thoughts

RYD

:beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

[wpage]

OK lets start over...
Whats wrong with 3 head jobs again???:popcorn: :beerchug:

[hummer_metal]

I had a sgt named skinner back around 1991 at Ft Carson. I was working Norad and Ute hill back in those days.

Skinner, Steve Skinner was a real brick.

Huff and tuff on the surface, talked more smack than a box of Sugar Smacks that was dropped to the enemy.

Get this, skinner drop us 1400 meters from point of contact with opfor. skinner had been briefed that a movement to contact would take place, and he decided to get all of us killed.

I hate the name skinner, just makes me wanna freeze my paint balls.

((( sorry folks I just had a flash back )))

skinner was/is a kitty cat.

[Agriv8r]

HIHUMMER got it right with the third post

Ok...I don't mean to be a bitch (ok..maybe I do)..but STFU. :rolleyes:

hard to believe it kept going after this great advice:jump:

[jp's-h3]

BOY U dickheads are rough on the guy. Where U read an AH, I see a guy with a legit complaint. Hes maybe not the best with composition of sentences about his complaint but hes nowhere near being a plant or setup.

I own 2 H-3's and yes there are compaints

AND

we all push the limit sometimes with OUR bantering and BS'ing

BUT

WE, ALL of us have to STOP beating up on people who disagree with us.

NOW,

As I read it he is taking the right action for his state

AND

I believe his dealers have aggrevated the situation..

Now thats my thoughts

RYD

:beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug: :beerchug:

CAN YOU SAY!
FREEDOM OF SPEECH! :fdance:

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

CAN YOU SAY!
FREEDOM OF SPEECH! :fdance:

I'm ALL FOR FREEDOM of SPEECH

Just want to stop HATRED & STUPID NEEDLESS Dickhead people from being abusive...

RYD

[Steve - SanJose]

wtf is this worthless thread now....

[Agriv8r]

wtf is this worthless thread now....

:confused: :confused: