H3T...does it have ?

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

went to the dealer today and they didn't have any in stock...oh well !

[tomp]

Yep, the bed is 50" above the small wheel wells and 44" in between them. I am driving one as a loaner right now while my h2 is at dealer. This one has front/rear lockers and CI front diff. It is a dog and gets high centered really easy due to it's long wheelbase and the spare under the bed. If it weren't for BOTH lockers, I would have been stuck on some very easy trails! With that being said, it is the 2nd most capable truck I have driven. I dont theink the GM-Hummer Engineers drove the Dodge Powerwagon when they came up with this H3T. The Dodge Powerwagon will out do the H3T without question.

I tried to fold down rear seats but could not see how to do it. Any ideas?

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Well they called and my truck is ready so i will return the H-3 loaner they gave me today...

tomorrow morning after the showroom opens...maybe they have a truck hidden away someware that i can feel and touch...

[Nips]

There is a little loop next to the seat that you pull to release them. It is near the top. As far as being a dog, I agree, makes my work car (05 cavalier) feel like a race car now! I wanted the 5 speed or I would've opted for the V8. Don't have to worry about getting any tickets though!

Originally Posted by tomp

Yep, the bed is 50" above the small wheel wells and 44" in between them. I am driving one as a loaner right now while my h2 is at dealer. This one has front/rear lockers and CI front diff. It is a dog and gets high centered really easy due to it's long wheelbase and the spare under the bed. If it weren't for BOTH lockers, I would have been stuck on some very easy trails! With that being said, it is the 2nd most capable truck I have driven. I dont theink the GM-Hummer Engineers drove the Dodge Powerwagon when they came up with this H3T. The Dodge Powerwagon will out do the H3T without question.

I tried to fold down rear seats but could not see how to do it. Any ideas?

[rhill20]

It can't be any worse then our 3's. Mine is anything but a dog...

Of course if and when I get an H3T it will be an Alpha with Off road pkg.

[Nips]

It's not worse, raced the wife and beat her in a race but she is now claiming she wasn't trying. I drove the H3T Alpha before ordering and it was impressive but not enough for me to justify the cost. I was more than happy with the I5 in the H3 so it wasn't too tough of a decision.

[tomp]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply motor was a dog. I meant it was a dog (maybe should have said sled) offroad. The wheelbase is a bit long, but not any worse than other long trucks

[RazM]

Sorry Tomp, I don't buy it. Nobody in their right mind would put a PowerWagon over an H3T in real offroad situations.

Lets look at some basic stats here and compare, when it comes down to it, the angles of a vehicle are more important than anything else, because if you can't get your tires on the obstacle, you're NOT getting over it.

Wheelbase:

H3T: 134.3

PowerWagon: 140.5

Ground Clearance:

H3T: 10.2

PowerWagon: 8.3

Approach Angle:

H3T: Listed at 38.7, but real number is 45 Degrees (The HUMMER site lists wrong numbers on both the H3 and H3T, they don't measure from the front shackles being flipped upward and they give some "lawyer leeway")

PowerWagon: 35

Departure Angle:

H3T: listed at 30, but again in reality it's 36 Degrees

PowerWagon: 26.5

The Power Wagon can only run a max sized tire of 33, the H3T can run 35's stock. Putting 35's on the H3T will bump that approach angle to around 53 degrees, the minimum ground clearance to well over 11 inches.

The H3T Designers knew what they were doing, and the H3T will outrun a Powerwagon, just put a tall obstacle with a steep angle in front of it and the PowerWagon is dead.