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11-30-2005, 12:44 AM
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Today my check engine light came on so I checked the code and it read a PO171 and a PO174 ....which to my reference is something about a lean condition. Has anyone else seen these codes before or have any reference to them?
Thanks.
(Been reading the forums for about a year, but never really post...thanks for all the tips and advice from all the great members here!)
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11-30-2005, 12:44 AM
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Today my check engine light came on so I checked the code and it read a PO171 and a PO174 ....which to my reference is something about a lean condition. Has anyone else seen these codes before or have any reference to them?
Thanks.
(Been reading the forums for about a year, but never really post...thanks for all the tips and advice from all the great members here!)
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<H1>DTC P0171 or P0174</H1>
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<H5>Circuit Description</A></H5>
The powertrain control module (PCM) controls the air/fuel metering system in
order to provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and
emission control. Fuel delivery is controlled differently during Open and Closed Loop.
During Open Loop, the PCM determines fuel delivery based on sensor signals without
oxygen sensor (O2S) input. During Closed Loop, the O2S inputs are added and used by
the PCM to calculate short and long term fuel trim fuel delivery adjustments. If the
O2S indicate a lean condition, fuel trim values will be above 0percent. If
the O2S indicate a rich condition, fuel trim values will be below 0percent.
Short term fuel trim values change rapidly in response to the heated oxygen sensor
(HO2S) voltage signals. Long term fuel trim makes coarse adjustments in order to maintain
an air/fuel ratio of 14.7:1. If the PCM detects an excessively lean condition, DTC
P0171 or P0174 sets.</P>
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<H5>Conditions for Running the DTC</A></H5>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>DTCsP0101, P0103, P0108, P0135, P0137, P0141, P0200, P0300, P0410,
P0420, P0430, P0440, P0442, P0443, P0446, P0449, P0506, P0507 or P1441 are not set.
</LI>
<LI>The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is between 75-115°C (167-239°F).
</LI>
<LI>The intake air temperature (IAT) is between -20 to +90°C (4-194°F).
</LI>
<LI>The manifold absolute pressure (MAP) is between 26-90kPa
(3.7-13psi).
</LI>
<LI>The vehicle speed is less than 137km/h (85mph).
</LI>
<LI>The engine speed is between 400-3,000RPM.
</LI>
<LI>The barometric pressure (BARO) is more than 74kPa (10.7psi).
</LI>
<LI>The mass airflow (MAF) is between 5-90g/s.
</LI>
<LI>The fuel level is more than 10percent.
</LI>
<LI>The throttle position (TP) is less than 90percent.
</LI>[/list]
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<H5>Conditions for Setting the DTC</A></H5>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>The average long term fuel trim cell value is above 23percent.
</LI>
<LI>All of the above conditions are present for 6seconds.
</LI>[/list]
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<H5>Action Taken When the DTC Sets</A></H5>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp
(MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and
fails.
</LI>
<LI>The control module records the operating conditions at the time
the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the control module
stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports
a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the control module
records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The control
module writes the operating conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates
the Failure Records.
</LI>[/list]
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<H5>Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC</A></H5>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL)
after 3consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does
not fail.
</LI>
<LI>A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs
and passes.
</LI>
<LI>A history DTC clears after 40consecutive warm-up cycles,
if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.
</LI>
<LI>Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool.
</LI>[/list]
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<H5>Diagnostic Aids</A></H5>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>The system will go lean if an injector is not suppling enough fuel.
</LI>
<LI>A lean condition could be present during high fuel demand.
</LI>
<LI>Use a scan tool in order to review the Failure Records . If an intermittent
condition is suspected, refer to
Intermittent Conditions
.
</LI>[/list]
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<H5>Test Description</A></H5>
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.</P>
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<LI VALUE=5>
If conditions were not corrected, refer to Fuel
System Diagnosis for a possible fuel problem.</P>
</LI><A NAME="TD06">
<LI VALUE=6>
If conditions were not corrected, a worn cam, worn
intake or exhaust valves, or other engine mechanical failure may be the problem.</P>
</LI>
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Yes</P>
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No</P>
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<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S01">
1</P>
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Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?</P>
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--</P>
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Go to
Step2
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Go to
Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls </P>
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2</P>
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<FONT COLOR=brown>
<H4>Important</H4>
If any DTCs other than P0171 or P0174 are
set, refer to those DTCs before continuing</P>
</FONT></P>
<LI TYPE="1">Start and idle the engine at the normal operating temperature in Closed
Loop.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Record the long term fuel trim.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Turn OFF the engine.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Turn ON ignition, with engine OFF.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Review the Freeze Frame/Failure Records and record the displayed data
for this DTC.</LI>
Does the scan tool indicate that the long term fuel trim is greater than the
specified value?</P>
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23% </P>
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Go to
Step3
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Go to Diagnostic Aids </P>
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<TR>
<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S03">
3</P>
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<LI TYPE="1">Observe the HO2S parameters with a scan tool.</LI>
Does the scan tool indicate that the parameter is within the specified range
and fluctuating?</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1>
200-800mV</P>
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Go to
Step4
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Go to
Step5
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<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S04">
4</P>
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[/list]
<LI TYPE="1">Visually and physically inspect the following items:</LI>
<UL TYPE="BULLET">
<LI>The vacuum hoses for splits, kinks, and proper connections. Refer to.
Emission Hose Routing Diagram
</LI>
<LI>Ensure that the vehicle has sufficient fuel in tank. If fuel pressure
is too low this DTC may set. Refer to.
Fuel System Diagnosis
</LI>
<LI>Fuel contamination--Refer to
Alcohol/Contaminants-in-Fuel Diagnosis
</LI>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P>
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--</P>
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Go to
Step6
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<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S05">
5
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<LI TYPE="1">Inspect the HO2S for proper installation.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Verify the electrical connectors and the wires are secure, and not contacting
the exhaust system.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Test for continuity between the HO2S signal circuit and the low reference
circuit. Refer to
Circuit Testing
and
Wiring Repairs
in Wiring Systems.</LI>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P>
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--</P>
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Go to
Step7
</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1>
Go to
Fuel System Diagnosis </P>
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<TR>
<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S06">
6
</P>
</A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
<LI TYPE="1">Inspect for any missing, loose, or leaking exhaust components forward
of the HO2S.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Inspect for vacuum leaks at the intake manifold, throttle body, and injector
O-rings.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Inspect the air induction system and the air intake ducts for leaks.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Inspect the secondary air injection (AIR) system for leaks, improper air
delivery, and for the shut-off valves not closing.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Inspect the crankcase ventilation system for leaks. Refer to
Crankcase Ventilation System Inspection/Diagnosis
in Engine
Mechanical.</LI>
Did you find and correct the condition?</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1>
--</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1>
Go to
Step7
</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1>
Go to
Symptoms - Engine Mechanical
in
Engine Mechanical</P>
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<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S07">
7</P>
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<FONT COLOR=brown>
<H4>Important</H4>
After repairs, use the scan tool Fuel Trim
Reset function in order to reset the Long Term Fuel Trim.</P>
</FONT></P>
<LI TYPE="1">Turn OFF the ignition for 30seconds.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Start the engine.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may
also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure
Records.</LI>
Did the DTC fail this ignition?</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1>
--</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1>
Go to
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Go to
Step8
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<TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1><A NAME="S08">
8</P>
</A></TD><TD ALIGN="left" VALIGN="top" ROWSPAN=1>
Observe the Capture Info with a scan tool.</P>
Are there any DTCs that have not been diagnosed?</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="middle" ROWSPAN=1>
--</P>
</TD><TD ALIGN="center" VALIGN="bottom" ROWSPAN=1>
Go to
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System OK</P>
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11-30-2005, 01:25 AM
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<H1>97-05 Vehicles with 4.8 5.3 5.7 and 6.0 Gen III V8 Engines and Misfires on One Bank - kw CEL diagnostics driveability DTC P0171 P0172 P0174 P0175 P0300 P0301 P0302 P0303 P0304 P0305 P0306 P0307 P0308 #PIP3056 - (Jul 12, 2004)</H1>
97 - 05 Vehicles with 4.8 5.3 5.7 and 6.0 Gen III V8 Engines and Misfires
On One Bank
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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the described
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Check Engine Light with a P0300 due to 2 - 4 cylinders misfiring on the same
bank of the engine. DTCs P0171, P0172, P0174 or P0175 may also set for the misfiring
bank. </P>
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If the published misfire diagnostic does not isolate the cause, perform the
following suggestions as necessary:</P>
concern exists, it is possible to misfuel an entire bank of the engine, causing multiple
cylinders on the same bank to misfire even though the root cause is a single fuel
injector. </LI>
<LI TYPE="1"> Inspect O2 sensor connections on the misfiring bank for corrosion or
water intrusion. If water intrusion is found on the right bank, it may be due to the
AC Evaporator Condensation dripping onto the O2 sensor harness. If this condition
is found, reposition and shield the harness to prevent a repeat concern and repair
the connections.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Check for excessive exhaust backpressure using the restricted exhaust
diagnosis from SI.</LI>
<LI TYPE="1">Swap the Position 1 O2 sensors side to side to see if the misfires move
to the other bank of the engine. If so, replace the O2 sensor.</LI>
.</P>
Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the
condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps
do not need to be performed. If these steps do not resolve the condition, please contact
GM TAC for further diagnostic assistance.</P>
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(00 - 05 Cadillac Escalade - C6 and K6) and (02 - 05 Chevrolet Avalanche -
C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (99 - 05 Chevrolet Silverado - C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (00 -
05 Chevrolet Suburban - C1, C2, K1 and K2) and (00 - 05 Chevrolet Tahoe - C1 and
K1) and (99 - 05 GMC Sierra C1, C2 K1 and K2) and (00 - 05 GMC Yukon - C1, C2, K1
and K2) and (03 - 05 Chevrolet Express G1, G2, G3, H1, H2 ) and (03 - 05 GMC Savana
G1, G2, G3, H1, H2 ) and (04 - 05 Buick Rainier S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 Chevrolet Trail
Blazer EXT S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 GMC Envoy XL XUV S1, T1 ) and (03 - 05 Hummer H2)
and (04 - 05 Cadillac CTS-V DB) and (98 - 02 Chevrolet Camaro FB) and (97 - 04 Chevrolet
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