Transmission Slips?

[Dave LV]

The dealer will probably not be able to fix it if the computer did not record the event unless they can drive it for long enough that it repeats.

[hmrlvr]

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=18818

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by hmrlvr

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=18818

There is a mention of a slip at 80 mph, that won't be a mount, unless it fell off.

[Michael1]

Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael

[evldave]

Originally Posted by Michael1

Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael

Because one person has a transmission problem? Please explain your logic. I can see how if this was a used vehicle, the 'manual are less complex and therefore less likely to break down' argument, but for a new vehicle, how is it that it is more likely to break down just because it's automatic?

I'd be curious to see how many service calls there are on NEW automatic vs manual transmissions. Until I see a study that shows new manual transmissions are more reliable, I call BULL$HIT!

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by Michael1

Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael

Well, to each his own. I like manual trannys cause they're more fun, but it's not about their reliability.

Manuals have their own issues, like broken clutch cables/hydraulics, clutch pads, throw-out bearings, spring plates and on and on. They're easier to work on in some ways, but hardly trouble-free.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Michael1

Now I remember why I won't buy a vehicle with an automatic transmission.

Michael

That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale. )

[Agriv8r]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale. )

deep water access? any bulkhead footage??

[Michael1]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

That's right, manuals never break; clutches don't wear, pressure plates don't break. (If you believe that, I have some ocean front property right outside Moab for sale. )

I never say never, BUUUUTTT, if you know how to drive a manual, which sadly most people don't, you have a lot more control over clutch wear than you do with an automatic. The only clutch slip you should have with a manual is on startup, and if you let the RPM drop below idle, even that is just about negligible. Automatic? Clutches are slipping on every shift, as well as, on torque converter lockup. Pulling a trailer? That tears up the automatic's clutches on every shift. Again, the manual will only see the clutch wear once per startup. The synchros don't wear any differently at zero throttle or full throttle.

I've had 10 cars with manuals, and only one failure, a throw-out bearing due my not checking the clutch pedal freeplay. Clutch was still good at over 100,000 miles. On the other hand, I've had two cars with automatics, and both started slipping before 80,000 miles, and they were driven gently because I didn't want transmission problems.

Aamco didn't make a business on manual transmissions.

Don't take my word for it, though. Take a look at any of the forums. Even corrected for sales penetration, there are always many more problems with automatics: slipping, jerking, not shifting properly, not going into gear, noises, burned fluid, etc.

I'll stick to my nice simple manual transmission, where I control the wear and tear.

Dave, for you, I'd stick with the automatic. It's tough to drive with a beer in one hand with a manual.

Michael

I like manuals in my sports cars personally. Automatics I prefer in trucks especially if some towing is planned.

S.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Michael1

I never say never, BUUUUTTT, if you know how to drive a manual, which sadly most people don't, you have a lot more control over clutch wear than you do with an automatic. The only clutch slip you should have with a manual is on startup, and if you let the RPM drop below idle, even that is just about negligible. Automatic? Clutches are slipping on every shift, as well as, on torque converter lockup. Pulling a trailer? That tears up the automatic's clutches on every shift. Again, the manual will only see the clutch wear once per startup. The synchros don't wear any differently at zero throttle or full throttle.

I've had 10 cars with manuals, and only one failure, a throw-out bearing due my not checking the clutch pedal freeplay. Clutch was still good at over 100,000 miles. On the other hand, I've had two cars with automatics, and both started slipping before 80,000 miles, and they were driven gently because I didn't want transmission problems.

Aamco didn't make a business on manual transmissions.

Don't take my word for it, though. Take a look at any of the forums. Even corrected for sales penetration, there are always many more problems with automatics: slipping, jerking, not shifting properly, not going into gear, noises, burned fluid, etc.

I'll stick to my nice simple manual transmission, where I control the wear and tear.

Dave, for you, I'd stick with the automatic. It's tough to drive with a beer in one hand with a manual.

Michael

And MAACO, the same original owner did not make a fortune painting new cars, eiither.
I will admit, manuals are for people who know how to shift, but most don't. Mauals are fantastic when stuck in sand or climbing big rocks. Never have to ride the clutch....

However, I will agree, manuals when driving correctly do save at least $3.00 per year on fuel costs.